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Message posted by paulfoel06/6/2022 at 11:31am
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Seen people mention Kampa Gale which is great I guess if you're car is close by. BTW does this have the screw-fit sort of connector for the Berghaus tent (not sure which model I have).

Only problem is I do music festivals so no car close by or no electric. By the time I've lugged it all, pumping the tent up nearly kills me off.

Anything rechargeable that would fit?

Message posted by Monty1506/6/2022 at 12:36pm
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I'm not aware of any rechargeable pumps capable of dealing with a airbeam tent/awning, there are a few rechargeable pumps for airbeds/toys etc. but they would not develop the pressure necessary for an airbeam. Airbed type pumps are only low pressure fans, airbeam pumps are proper high pressure compressors.

My Kampa Gale pump only has one screw on connector (all 5 others are push fit) and that is for the Kampa awning I have, no idea if it's compatible with any other brand's fittings.

My Gale pump draws up to 10A from 12v car/caravan supply, which is a pretty serious drain, maybe that's why there are no rechargeable pumps around, it'd require quite a heavy duty battery and be a weighty and expensive bit of kit! The pump alone weighs 2Kg and has a RRP of over 60! For a rechargeable version you'd likely near double or triple those figures - suspect the demand would not be there to justify marketing one!

Best I can suggest is use 12v power pack and Gale type pump, but if you are complaining about lugging all your kit as it is, you'd be adding a LOT more Kg's to your existing burden!


Message posted by taafe7506/6/2022 at 2:00pm
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Vango do a power bank that has enough current to run a 10A 12V DC Pump like the Gale

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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 06/6/2022
I'm not aware of any rechargeable pumps capable of dealing with a airbeam tent/awning, there are a few rechargeable pumps for airbeds/toys etc. but they would not develop the pressure necessary for an airbeam. Airbed type pumps are only low pressure fans, airbeam pumps are proper high pressure compressors.

My Kampa Gale pump only has one screw on connector (all 5 others are push fit) and that is for the Kampa awning I have, no idea if it's compatible with any other brand's fittings.

My Gale pump draws up to 10A from 12v car/caravan supply, which is a pretty serious drain, maybe that's why there are no rechargeable pumps around, it'd require quite a heavy duty battery and be a weighty and expensive bit of kit! The pump alone weighs 2Kg and has a RRP of over 60! For a rechargeable version you'd likely near double or triple those figures - suspect the demand would not be there to justify marketing one!

Best I can suggest is use 12v power pack and Gale type pump, but if you are complaining about lugging all your kit as it is, you'd be adding a LOT more Kg's to your existing burden!





Yeh thats it.... Carrying a load of heavy power packs sort of defeats the object....

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Quote: Originally posted by taafe75 on 06/6/2022
Vango do a power bank that has enough current to run a 10A 12V DC Pump like the Gale



Might take a look at that...


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Message posted by gari08/6/2022 at 1:39pm
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There is always an answer - just depends how much money you want to throw at it!

The main tool brands (Makita, DeWalt, Ryobi) all do battery operated air compressors which would easily give the pressure but not the volume. The inflators they sell give the volume but not the pressure. However Ryobi do a combined one Ryobi multi inflator 70 which might be suitable if you already have ryobi tools and batteries.


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Quote: Originally posted by gari on 08/6/2022
There is always an answer - just depends how much money you want to throw at it!

The main tool brands (Makita, DeWalt, Ryobi) all do battery operated air compressors which would easily give the pressure but not the volume. The inflators they sell give the volume but not the pressure. However Ryobi do a combined one Ryobi multi inflator 70 which might be suitable if you already have ryobi tools and batteries.





Does this work on air beams?

Message posted by Monty1508/6/2022 at 5:21pm
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Quote: Originally posted by taafe75 on 08/6/2022
Quote: Originally posted by gari on 08/6/2022
There is always an answer - just depends how much money you want to throw at it!

The main tool brands (Makita, DeWalt, Ryobi) all do battery operated air compressors which would easily give the pressure but not the volume. The inflators they sell give the volume but not the pressure. However Ryobi do a combined one Ryobi multi inflator 70 which might be suitable if you already have ryobi tools and batteries.





Does this work on air beams?




Two things stand out, could you get/adapt a suitable hose coupling for the tent, and would it have the continuous run time necessary to fully inflate an airbeam tent in one go?

Most compressors are designed for tyres with a much reduced volume compared to a set of airbeams, albeit at higher pressure which balances out to some degree! Yes I know it states the number of items the BATTERY can inflate per charge, but that's not the same as how long the compressor can run before overheating! The instruction manual says allow to cool for 5 minutes after every 5 mins of continuous running, now my caravan awning has less airbeam volume than many tents and takes 10-12 mins on the Gale pump, which maybe indicates that this pump would take perhaps 20-25 mins in multiple sessions between cooling intervals to inflate a tent, maybe longer, as my Gale pump is purposely designed to provide both volume and pressure! My Gale pump can run continuously for 15 mins before needing a cool down period.

The other thing the manual mentions is that the pressure gauge is not accurate (which obviously means the pre-set cut off pressure will also likely be inaccurate!) and pressure should be verified by a separate pressure gauge, my Gale pump claims plus/minus 0.5PSI which is accurate enough to prevent over inflating an airbeam on it's pre-set cut off.

At first glance this Ryobi looked very appealing, but a little delving makes it look a lot less so, especially as the whole working package looks like around 200!

Message posted by paulfoel08/6/2022 at 5:56pm
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Of course, we're getting into the territory now of maybe saving 20 mins of manual pumping but having to lug something heavy 1/2 a mile instead.

Message posted by gari08/6/2022 at 9:06pm
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Quote: Originally posted by paulfoel on 08/6/2022
Of course, we're getting into the territory now of maybe saving 20 mins of manual pumping but having to lug something heavy 1/2 a mile instead.


Aldi occassionally does cheap tools and they currently have some available on their website Aldi website at a fraction of the price of the Ryobi 55 for volume pump, compressor, battery and charger. I would get an extra battery though. The compressor and pump together only weighs just over 1 kg according to the specs.

The only unknown is how long you can run them continuously and how long it would take it to inflate. With my battery air compressor the recommendation is 10 mins max (then give it a break) to avoid it overheating. But if you do have to break for 5 mins - you could use this time to start inflating the next airbeam with the volume pump.

As for connections - my son has this for his paddleboard. Pretty certain it matches the airbeam connection. Although with his paddle board I found a volume pump much more useful and then finish the high pressure with the hand pump (air beams probably have much less volume though).





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