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Cheers Ewen,
Funnily enough, I have a couple of those (literally, just the two), but only ever wrapped them around the roof box!
Must admit, I've only ever used normal 4mm guy line for my tarp(s)... well, hi viz/reflective stuff.... and never had a problem, touch wood.
I also have a bag full of the ball bungee's, probably 6"/8" long, but quite sturdy/chunky.
Thinking out loud, I may just experiment with a combination of both the guys I already have, and the bungees I already have, for a little give, to see if I like it... if I ever get around to putting my beloved Tarp up again that is! Having a top of the range tent with all those fantastic modular add on options isn't always as good as it's cracked up to be!!



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Hi. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'm testing out my setup and however taut I pull the ridgeline it still dips when I guy down the tarp. I need the headroom.
Thanks for all previous knowledge from this group. Great stuff.

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Hiya, see this thread to find out how to add an image

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Quote: Originally posted by Ratty on 22/2/2018
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Apuds,

Presuming those are telescopic poles, first off, set the ridge line at a comfortable height, hang the tarp, then take the poles up to max. That's the common sense bit!

Also I'd say... with confidence... that with a little more room, your guys on the poles could be longer, and more importantly at a better angle, to literally pull the poles apart, thus getting the ridgeline much tighter. On that pic, the guys to the poles are obviously restricted to how tight they can pull that ridgeline. (On a plan view, your pole guys are probably around 160 deg apart (almost forming a straight line through the pole). Take the pegs around into the hedge, until they each go out at about 45 deg, so 90 deg between them). Hope that makes sense!

Finally... and this is the "do as I say, not as I do" bit, as I'm as guilty as anyone with this... don't be too tempted to overtighten the guys coming from the tarp itself . Just take up the slack, and only tighten if the wind picks up, and it starts flapping.

All in all, I'd say you've done as well as you can within those confines, and with more room, a better angle to the pole guys, and the resulting tighter ridgeline, you'll be much more satisfied with the result. Restrictions aside, it looks like a job well done, to me.



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Is there any particular reason your poles are so far apart? If they come in much closer to the actual tarp you won't be able to pull the ridge line down.

Another idea is to lean the poles outward a bit, you can then get much more tension on your ridge line.

We are waiting for warmer weather before our camping kit comes out from hibernation...

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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 22/2/2018
Apuds,

Presuming those are telescopic poles, first off, set the ridge line at a comfortable height, hang the tarp, then take the poles up to max. That's the common sense bit!

Also I'd say... with confidence... that with a little more room, your guys on the poles could be longer, and more importantly at a better angle, to literally pull the poles apart, thus getting the ridgeline much tighter. On that pic, the guys to the poles are obviously restricted to how tight they can pull that ridgeline. (On a plan view, your pole guys are probably around 160 deg apart (almost forming a straight line through the pole). Take the pegs around into the hedge, until they each go out at about 45 deg, so 90 deg between them). Hope that makes sense!

Finally... and this is the "do as I say, not as I do" bit, as I'm as guilty as anyone with this... don't be too tempted to overtighten the guys coming from the tarp itself . Just take up the slack, and only tighten if the wind picks up, and it starts flapping.

All in all, I'd say you've done as well as you can within those confines, and with more room, a better angle to the pole guys, and the resulting tighter ridgeline, you'll be much more satisfied with the result. Restrictions aside, it looks like a job well done, to me.





Cheers Mucker.
The poles are maxed out. I understand what you are saying regarding the 90 degree guys. I'm going to spin the entire setup so I can have a better attempt at what you describe.

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Quote: Originally posted by alahol2 on 23/2/2018
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Is there any particular reason your poles are so far apart? If they come in much closer to the actual tarp you won't be able to pull the ridge line down.

Another idea is to lean the poles outward a bit, you can then get much more tension on your ridge line.

We are waiting for warmer weather before our camping kit comes out from hibernation...



Thanks alahol2.
The reason the poles are so wide apart is this was a 1st attempt at a tarp setup and I was using my 4 year old to hold the poles until I guyed down. He wouldn't stand still and I was eager to hang the tarp. But I agree with you and I will reduce the length of the ridgeline when I make my changes today.

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Oooh, having sat under James and Suzie's tarp at their recent display I'm now really tempted to get/make one for our garden over the summer and bigger camps. This thread has only confirmed that feeling!

I obviously love the feel/look of the tencate cotton but what do people feel are the advantages/disadvantages of the different tarp materials? Is it worth me going to the effort of making a cotton one or should I just buy a cheaper polyester or poly cotton one? (Aside from the fact that a cotton one would match our intended tent!)

I've seen some people have added extra eyelets, I was planning on having a 3mx4m tarp, what number of eyelets should I be looking for? Every meter? One at each corner and one in the middle of each side?

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We used a DD nylon tarp when we had a nylon tent. Now we have a cotton tent we have a cotton tarp. If getting a cotton tarp, treat it. Our first one succumbed to mildew. The new one is bigger and treated to be more resistant to mould.
Cotton tarps are heavy when wet and can be heavier to deal with. The DD synthetic tarp is a joy to use but is noisy in the wind.

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Why not buy the one that matches the tent, they can make it in the same colour

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Because I can make one that matches the tent for half the price ;-)

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Quote: Originally posted by Ewen c on 24/10/2018
Cotton tarps are heavy when wet and can be heavier to deal with. The DD synthetic tarp is a joy to use but is noisy in the wind.


I hadn't thought about wind noise but that's a really good point.
It sounds like the lightweight synthetic ones are easier to erect?
I guess the pros and cons are similar to the tents, I just wanted to check I wasn't missing something obvious.
I've just re-done my calcs for making a tencate cotton one and the savings are not as huge as I thought (I'd not accounted for the poles for a start). Might still do it as an interesting challenge though.


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