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Subject Topic: Mould and Mildew removal....help!!
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Message posted by windywendy14/5/2011 at 11:05am
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Hi All.

Never before have I had this problem!! And I have it on my beloved Outwell Utah roof!!

Let this be a lesson to anyone who thinks that putting your tent away damp, will be ok!! It wont!!

We did a test pitch with our new, second hand tent, early April in my parents back garden, and it started to lightly rain before we packed it away. We thought it would be ok if we left the bag open and sited it next to the radiator for the next few days. But, the tent being the size it is, should have been aired fully, either in the garden on over the stair bannister, like I have always done in the past!! We thought it would dry off in the bag, but no. So I am left with the task of removing the mould and re-proofing the whole tent! Eeeeek.

I can't believe what a total numpty I am as I have ALWAYS aired all of my tents out in the past. Hopefully I can sort it and it will be happy days!!! :o)

What I need, is a tried and tested way of removing the greeny spots it's caused and getting rid of the mould spores from re-breeding! I have heard of a 'hydrogen peroxide' solution method, but would this not take ALL of the waterproofing membrane away from the roof?

Any help would be a help! Many thanks

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Message posted by HEJC7214/5/2011 at 12:07pm
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Many people recommend a very diluted solution of Milton (1:10) to remove mildew and kill the mould spores.

However you MUST rinse this off with LOADS of clean water and it may cause a slight bleaching effect.
Afterwards, you would need to use a suitable reproofing solution.



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Message posted by arsenaldes14/5/2011 at 2:25pm
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Naughty Wendy
Helen is absolutely spot on Dilute milton, leave on for approx 15 minutes rinse rinse and rinse again, then retreat any areas still affected. Reproof with Fabsil

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Message posted by windywendy15/5/2011 at 7:59pm
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Arsenaldes!! Tell me about it!!! Biggest mistake EVER!!!

Anyway, I have to deal with it now and on your's and Helen's advice, I will be getting the Milton on it the first chance I get!!

Many thanks, experience goes a long way!!! :o)

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Message posted by arsenaldes15/5/2011 at 9:46pm
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Naughty Wendy

I have to put my hands up and say I have had tent mould too in the past so you are not alone

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Message posted by windywendy16/5/2011 at 1:30pm
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Naughty Asenaldes!!!

....I think we all may make that mistake just the once and we learn from it very quickly, or it becomes a very expensive mistake!! Nice one for owning up though, made me chuckle!!

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Message posted by shirleys16/5/2011 at 1:51pm
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Surely a case of replace tent for a shiny new one

you could try mould and mildew remover but I warn you it contains bleach and would have to be thoroughly rinsed off.



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Message posted by Maximou1219/5/2011 at 10:48am
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Wendy

I fully sympathise, but don't beat yourself up too much. We stored our 1 season old Oakland XL away in October following a frosty night, but in glorious sunshine, we spent over 2 hours (what we thought!) meticulously drying the tent out, only to find at the weekend large patches of mould (4ft x 4ft)  All I can assume is that it sweated during storage over winter.

I e-mailed Outwell who stated it was practically impossible to get rid of, so after bit of research I have decided to try the `outdoor magic' sites recommendation of 5% hydrogen peroxide (Loyds chemist do 6% bottles for 89p) followed by a tent cleaner and re-proofing. I appreciate Milton is the cheaper option but I'm a bit concerned about discolouration.

 I'm just waiting for some time and a sunny day. I'll let you know how it goes.  

Good luck - John

 

 


Message posted by windywendy19/5/2011 at 1:52pm
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Hi John, many thanks for your reply!!

I thought the Hydrogen Peroxide idea was worth a try too! Milton does seem a little harsh on that fabric. Also was thinking the same as you, Fabsil cleaner then re-proofer. I don't have a garden as suchm just a back yard so I have to take my tent to my parents and do it all on their front driveway!! As they have a huge pond with prize Koi, I wouldnt even go near it with that strong a substance!!

Iam actually taking the Outwell away spring bank holiday weekend to Wales, so we'll see if it's got any worse then. I will have to do all the mould removal before we go away in June, as we are off to Cornwall in it for 10 nights. 

Oh the Joys eh?

Thanks, and good luck yourself. Wendy :o)  

ps. Be sure to post your findings using the Hydrogen Peroxide method, I'm sure it would help many other people too!!  

 



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Message posted by John Denim19/5/2011 at 10:45pm
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Hi All. first post here, having the same problem.

I've recently bought a Hartford xxl with extension.
Now, unfortunately the tent was bought on a well know auction site, and unseen.
Apparently used only twice, 2009 model. After pitching to inspect,all pods have mould, and there is some in the main living area too.
Will ANYTHING remove mould? is there anything I can maybe spray on it (some kind of fabric paint?) to cover up unsightly marks?
Regarding the comment on hydrogen peroxide, it's actually AHP (or accelerated hydrogen peroxide) that you need. (I work for a company that manufactures it as a disinfectant) I'm yet to try it on the mould, just thought i'd ask the experts first!
Be careful with Milton, as it's chlorinated and effectively bleach.

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Message posted by arsenaldes19/5/2011 at 11:45pm
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Hydrogen Peroxide is also a bleaching agent so if youre worried about Milton being a bleaching agent then why use Hydrogen Peroxide?????? .

Also you have to actually kill the mould spores to prevent it spreading if you are concerned about bleaching the fabric (polyester is fairly hard to bleach) then the only way to kill the mould is direct sunlight

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Message posted by John Denim20/5/2011 at 1:21pm
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Okay, maybe I should have said a derivative.
Our product does not stain, it is wool safe.

Thanks for letting me know that, I was not aware that polyester was resistant to bleach.

Message posted by windywendy20/5/2011 at 2:10pm
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Hi J.D, I take it that you are reffering to 'Ace' Gentle bleach?? That's wool safe!!

You have now given me an idea! Experiment coming up!!....

Maybe we could use a diluted 'Ace' version of the more stronger 'Hydrogen peroxide' and 'Milton'. Maybe 50%?? If it's kind to wool, would it also have the same effect on Polyester? We could dilute it, then empty it into an unused spray bottle with a trigger and spray away!! Obviously the tent would have to be hosed down a few times to remove all of the 'Ace solution'.

What do you think guys? Is it worth an experimental trial?.....If it works, John Denim, you are a genius!!! :o)

 



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Message posted by John Denim20/5/2011 at 3:36pm
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Hi Wendy.
I won't publicly promote my company on here, but it's not P&G, it's, 'the other one' I'll send you a p.m.

I'm just about to call one of our chemists to check, I'll post back here with my findings on AHP used on polyester.

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Oh, can we personal message on here?

Message posted by windywendy20/5/2011 at 4:24pm
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Hi J.D. Dont know about PM!!

My email address is: wendy at hainey.me.uk

Not sure if I'll get into trouble with that either!!!

Let me know what you find out! I understand about the brand loyalty thing!!

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