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Subject Topic: New tent time - freedom trail eskdale?
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Message posted by cbreddie01/9/2012 at 10:11pm
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We have just sold our suncamp touristXP12, we sold it for £140 which we are happy with, as the tent wasnt in perfect condition.

Anyway, heres the dilema....

Has anyone ever used a "freedom trail eskdale"10" or "8"? are they any good? what is their realistic life expectancy? we go away once or twice a year when funds allow, we look after our tents and never store them wet.

Also can we get a kitchen extension/ porch to fit?

We are on a tight budget, but not sure whether to buy a cheap tent every few years or buy a better tent and hope it lasts much longer.

Any help would be great. Please be honest rather than tactful. honest advice is ALWAYS better.

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Message posted by Wurzel_Col03/9/2012 at 1:41pm
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It depends on what is your preferrance. We wont have anything but a canvas tent. They are stronger and generally more spacious . We have a Cabanon Aruba with a sun canopy and bedroom extension. A new version of the tent is about £1300 ( a lot, i know) but they crop up on Ebay for upto £500. If you can get one at this price, you'll get a bargain. I have NEVER seen one of these flattened in bad weather and Cabanon canvas are of the highest quality. You can cook inside this tent ( huge advantage of the polyester ones) and there is a large "lounge" area, we've had 17 people inside ours for drinks !!!. Downside? it is a big and heavy tent but easy to erect , so you will need a trailer. Ours is 5 years old now and is good as new, not needed to re-proof it either. I cant recommend this tent highly enough!

Message posted by cbreddie03/9/2012 at 5:03pm
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I wish we had that sort of budget, sadly we have about £200 to buy a good sized tent.

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Message posted by AlisonBob03/9/2012 at 7:46pm
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Hi

there are ebay bargains out there,2 weeks ago I managed to pick up 2006 Cabanon Aruba, 5X3 high sided trailer, 2 camp beds,Wardrobe,3 airbeds, 2 gas bottles, 2 burner stove with grill, porta potti, chairs table, plates etc all for £312.

If you have the room to transport a canvas frame tent I think you would get far more for your money as they are out of fashion, just have to ensure they have been looked after.

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Message posted by Robbo187603/9/2012 at 11:32pm
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When I started considering tents this summer the sales guy at my local Go Outdoors wouldn't even contemplate selling me a Freedom Trail tent!!

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Message posted by arsenaldes04/9/2012 at 5:08pm
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A lot depends on what you expect for your money as for the price they cant be as good a quality as the leading brands but then youre nor paying leading brand prices. In 2006 we bought a Rage Bergen 6, same "cheap and cheerfull" product as the freedom trial we used it 6 or so times, sold it to a friend who used it 2 or 3 times he then sold it to his sister who is still using it now. It never leaked and nothing broke.

The one thing that would worry me on such a large tent as an 8 or 10 is are the poles up to it?? I say this because the Rage used to start off at 2.1m high but by the end of a week it was less than 1.8m high as the poles used to sag over time and that was on a 6 person tent non of them ever broke though.

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Message posted by cbreddie06/9/2012 at 7:46am
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ok thanks for the advice. If I found that the poles weren't up to the job I could always change them for better ones when finances pick up. But I have never come accross "freedom trail" before, so I thought it was worth a question.

In reply to buying a leading brand tent, I would love an Outwell polycotton tent, but sadly funds just wont allow. I will just have to keep saving until their prices drop to a level I can afford.

We went to go outdoors yesterday to look at tents, they had taken them all down!! I know its end of season, but I wouldve thought leaving them up until the end of september wouldve made a bit more sense.

The Go outdoors branch was Blackburn by the way. their excuse was "its because of all that weather we had last christmas" wake up people its only september, we have a few months to christmas.

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Message posted by Beanchimp06/9/2012 at 11:21am
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Strangely Go Outdoors told us not to buy the Freedom Trail tents too

and after looking at them close up I am really glad we didn't

We went for the HiGear (made by Gelert) Voyager 10 which cost 299 but the Kalahari is going for 249 (or it was)




Message posted by Sceptical Camper06/9/2012 at 12:28pm
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'Freedom Trail' is a very inexpensive range sold - as far as I can see - only by Go Outdoors.

I've not closely inspected any of this brand in my local GO but the tents have been popping up (no pun intended) on campsites and at festivals this summer so I've seen quite a few of them in the wild.

Apart from being rather lurid colour, they look cheap and cheerful and, from a cursory glance, appear to be quite flimsy.

That's not to say the brand is rubbish, of course. However, as with most things, you get what you pay for. If a product range is priced very low it is a pretty safe bet that it will not be as robust, fully-featured or as durable as more expensive products.

As to enhancing cheap tents, even if you buy replacement polesets, beef up attachment points, substitute decent pegs etc, you'll still be left with thin fabrics, indifferent stitching, a lack of desirable features, a flimsy groundsheet and so on. The enhanced components will have cost you money (polesets aren't cheap) so you might as well have spent the dosh on a good quality tent in the first place.

Message posted by Beanchimp06/9/2012 at 3:37pm
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The staff at GO more or less showed us why we shouldn't buy one

no built in groundsheet and the design leads to rivers running through your tent if not pitched perfectly flat, very thin flimsy fabric with only 1500 hydrostatic head

I have also noticed that they only have the freedom trail range erected indoors and not outside, only higear and outwell

To me they are a budget tent, but for that little push extra you can get so much better quality and hydro

I said this the other day and will say it again, we agreed that had we chose the Freedom Trail we would have probably been on our way home 2 days in to our holiday




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Message posted by JimCall06/9/2012 at 4:44pm
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I suppose taken in context, they would perform adequately in the summer (summer? what summer?) but I camp all year round in the Highlands of Scotland. I too have seen them in Go and personally I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole. Wouldnt last a weekend the way I abuse my tents!

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Message posted by elizaD06/9/2012 at 5:34pm
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We've looked at them too......cheap and nasty springs to mind. Saw one pitched at Great Langdale too, and it was wobbling all over the place as the poles are so thin.

How many do you need the tent for?? We picked up a Cabanon Las Palmas (6 berth) for £73 on ebay and she's in great condition. There are a few Cabanons on there now going for reasonable prices, but it all depends if you have room to store and transport.

If it must be nylon, the HiGear seem reasonable quality for the price.



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Message posted by dondo06/9/2012 at 5:37pm
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I have seen these tents on the Go Outdoors website but saw my 1st one in the flesh as such this summer and as others have said it does look very flimsy and not too robust.

Personally I'd see if you could get a decent one 2nd hand off ebay, gumtree or the like


Message posted by cbreddie06/9/2012 at 10:14pm
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We have seen a freedom trail tent today at go outdoors (manchester).

NO NO NO I dont want one now, having seen one in the flesh.

Back to the drawing board.

On Ebay I have seen a couple of Vango vail700

Anyone seen these/like em / hate em??

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Message posted by dianebb7206/9/2012 at 11:33pm
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we recently bought a Vango Odyssey 500 and porch for £196 from a tent seller on Ebay, we've found it perfectly adequate for our needs whilst in Spain this summer, took a few pics when we first pitched her



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Message posted by cbreddie07/9/2012 at 10:29pm
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Thats not a bad little tent

Heres my wife's wish list...

The tent needs to have at least 3 double bedrooms, not all next to eachother. (her indoors wants to sleep away from the girls)

It needs to have a decent sized living area...

A separate area to cook in. An extension/porch would be ideal....

It needs to have a sewn in groundsheet or a zip in.

Oh and the inner tents need to have enough space for campbeds not air beds.

Not much to ask for..... yeah right lol

I personally just want a tent big enough for 5 of us with a large enough area to play cards when it rains, with an area to cook in.

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