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Message posted by Dicko Smitt on 02/7/2017 at 10:11am
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Hi,
I've just had to scrap a stay in Cornwall becuase of a tent failure.
The tent in question was a Regatta Vanern 4. As it got wind y and rainy two of the poles snapped and the tent also leaked badly.
In September i had a leaky tent a Freedom Trail Sendero 4 which managed to stay upright but leaked badly.
So can anyone suggest a tent that can stay upright and is water proof.
One note about the hydro rating the Regatta leaked more so than the Sendero even though the rating is twice as much.

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Hi Dicko,
We've got an Outwell Bear Lake 6 which has stood up to some absolute shockers over the last few years. I reckon the things that make it sturdy are mainly the fixed metal poles and robust tent pegs (we have the red plastic cross shaped cross section ones)
So it might be a good idea to look at tents with steel or aluminium poles for stability.
Waterproof-wise, we've found canvas and polycotton to be good, but it's more expensive and heavier than nylon... depends what you need the tent for. For weekends away we have just started using our old (22 years!) marechal Victoria which again is a steel pole and canvas job but can be pitched quickly. A coating of fabsil every now and again helps keep our tents waterproof.
Hope this is of some use

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Hello Dicko and welcome to the forum.

It's quite unusual for a new tent to leak: the problem may be condensation. An adult will contribute about a pint a day on top of what's already in the air. Aside from mopping up with towels, all you can do about it really is keep the tent as well ventilated as possible, or get a polycotton or cotton tent.

Regarding the wind and breaking poles, steel poled or airbeam tents fare better than fibreglass, but it's worth reading Sceptical Camper's excellent advice here.

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Thanks guys,
It definately wasn't condensation as we never got into the tent.
I'll look for steel poles this time.

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I think I will have to copy and paste my comments about condensation into every thread complaining about leaking tents but for the time being just take a look at Cross Camping - condensation

With regards to the poles breaking the Regatta Vanern 4 is a relatively expensive tent at over 200 and the poles should not have broken if the tent was set up properly, or unless you were hit by a gale. Were all the guy ropes pegged out and taut and the flysheet pegged at the base all round?


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Hi
The wind was about 40mph gusting higher.
The poles split length ways
Eberything was pegged out Ok but a couple of the guy rope attachments broke away then making it worse.
Thanks for the video on condensation. There were pools of water in the bottom of the tent and the rain was misling through.

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What's your budget and how many people will be using it? Have you got plenty of room to carry it or does it need to be a compact pack size?

After x 2 rubbish experiences with leaking tents and breaking poles I think you're being really positive here.

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It's for 2 people (With space that's why i went for 4 man tents)
It would go in a car boot. I'm not sure how much to spend just to get a tent that can stand up in British weather.
Maybe my expectations are too high in that you have to spend as much money as a caravan to get a decent tent.
I,m still dithering as what to look at.

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Do you want standing room throughout? Have you got any idea on budget (ball park figure)?

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Quote: Originally posted by Dicko Smitt on 03/7/2017
Hi
The wind was about 40mph gusting higher.
The poles split length ways
Eberything was pegged out Ok but a couple of the guy rope attachments broke away then making it worse.
Thanks for the video on condensation. There were pools of water in the bottom of the tent and the rain was misling through.



40mph winds are described as gale force on the beaufort scale. You will need a pretty strong tent to survive those winds for any length of time.

The strongest winds I have been camping in were forecast as 28 mph although seemed a lot stronger in reality. Even at that strength it nearly laid my dome tent flat, and I had fitted extra guy lines.

It was as a result of that experience I changed to metal poled tents and vowed never to use fibreglass poles again, but even with a metal poled tent I would be a bit worried in a force 8, 40 mph gale.



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Looks like a case of:-

"I used to indecisive.

Now, I'm not so sure"   

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I'm not destitute, I'm just poor.

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Have a look at the Dutch storm tents such as the Obelink Eldorado www.obelink.co.uk.

We have used this tent in quite gusty wind conditions on the coast and had no problems It is the cheaper end of the Dutch tents,
depending upon your budget have a look at www.campingtravelstore.co.uk/esvo-tents

//www.dewaardtenten.nl/

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Hi,
I'd like to stand up ish and we're both about 1.75m
I suppose about 200.00. The problem is the gamble of buying a tent not knowing if it will survive
I can't seem to post a snap else I could show you.

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Please please please can someone help me do I sound desperate enough coz I am I've just got a outwell hartford S and I have no instructions on how to put it up yes it's coulor coded simple you would think but noooo it's not a continuous sleeve so does it cross over at the top/roof or not and is it possible to get a carpet and awning no laughing I haven't put a tent up in years 😙

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Hello Susan.

Check out this Video on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LruzDIfLBwg

Hope it helps?

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Hi Susan

I suggest putting your request into it's own thread. That way people will see your request as a stand alone topic and help.

Smitten Dick or is that Dicko Smitt.

Anyhow. Your attitude is remarkably positive considering your experience.

The old addage about buying cheap and buying twice doesn't count here as you've already bought two cheap tents. For this type of weather they are not designed. Other more expensive tents decrease the chances of splitting length ways by an extra wrapping to the poles. All these small differences in the more expensive tents can make a difference.

All campers are on a learning curve some come through unscathed others like yourself suffer.

I think if you could pay more for a brand of tent like Outwell, Kampa etc.

The other thing to get something within budget that is quite a step up in quality in materials is to purchase second hand. One thing I would make note of if at all possible, try to find a Polycotton tent at least or better still 100% canvas as the lifespan of such lends to a better lifespan particularly if buying second hand.

I have bought one second hand polycotton tent and it's a beauty in both condition and quality.

Lot's recommend staying away from buying second hand tents, particularly nylon /polyester ones. The lifespan is very much shorter due to the UV degradation. Then again I have sold two nylon tents and both were bargains for the buyer as they were mint condition with the air tent only been used c10 nights over two trips.

Do a little homework on tents and buyers selling second hand and you will greatly decrease your chances of having issues.



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