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Subject Topic: To airtent or not to airtent? And which?
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20/2/2019 at 1:38pm
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We bought a factory second air tent from here a few years ago, tent was fine, just had porch groundsheet missing, service from company was good, and price for tent much cheaper than new.https://www.a2zcamping.co.uk/tents.html


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I owned a berghaus Air 8. I cannot rate the tent highly enough. We camped several times on top on the Hills near Robin Hoods bay and it stood up to very heavy rain and extremely high winds.
I purchased the porch too. So much room and handy pockets. If I needed one as big again I'd buy Bergahus.
Ps. I'm female in my 40s and could set this up on my own in no time. Once it's laid flat I could put it up in under 10 mins easy.


20/2/2019 at 2:27pm
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I've had an air tent for three years. No problems at all with it and it's been in some very wet and windy conditions. In contrast the pole tent I had before suffered a snapped pole on one occasion and required various bits of tape on other poles where they'd started cracking.

As a single camper it's a lot easier to put the air tent up, especially when conditions are not great. The SIG is great too, nice and cosy inside.


via mobile 21/2/2019 at 3:41am
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I have had 2 air tents the first had a faulty valve meaning the main beam had a slow leak and deflated over night on its first outing. The replacement had a faulty zip which also led to the main beam exploding and an unplanned hotel stay on its third outing. If you don't want lots of poles and something you can put up quickly consider a Khyam QE
https://www.khyam.co.uk/tents-c174/pole-system-c177/q-e-quick-erect-c178


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22/2/2019 at 8:06pm
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I've become a bit of a tent snob, as I've taken the 6.5 year journey through my camping career (thus far).

I could arguably be within my rights to say I now have the best of the best...
but not because of the exquisite workmanship...
not because of the European-wide renown and high regard for the brand...
not because it is not only inflatable, but the most robust inflatable system on the market, tried, tested, and proven, with over 30 years of history and unfailing reputation! (inflatable tents are not new!)

My unadulterated snobbishness comes from sleeping under canvas! Not in the "well known phrase or saying" sense, but in the real sense... 100% cotton canvas!

Ok, if pushed, I would go back to polycotton, but polyester? After this? I'd rather stay in a travel lodge!

So I guess what I'm saying is... Are you asking the right question? Do you have your priorities right? Is pitching time and effort more important than quality and comfort?

I'd say unto thee, ask not "inflatable v pole", but rather "Cotton canvas v polyester"!

If you can consider polyester after what you have been used to, then you are a better man than me, Ms Mouse!



... Did I mention I've become a tent snob?   




*(The size, shape, and inflatabilityness of the tents you're looking at will be fine... just think about polycotton as a minimum... for your own sanity!)




... and yes... of course "inflatabilityness" is a word... I ain't fick!

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via mobile 22/2/2019 at 9:40pm
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Oh dear, after years of feeling smug under canvas it would be a bit of a come down wouldn't it?! Aargh!

But we really like the layout of these tents. And even if we could afford the polycotton version, they are so heavy and bulky, I'm not sure it would be practical anyway.

My plan now is to make a shortlist and try and go to a showroom and see them and talk about them!

Thanks everyone for the input!


24/2/2019 at 9:11am
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I would not be put off a polyester tents. They sell in their thousands and do what is expected of them and most tent campers use them.
There is also lots of styles and colours to choose from. Canvas as you will know is bombproof but so dull and dismal once inside in my opinion.

I personally do not want to own/use the same tent 10, 20 or 30 years.You could probably buy 3-4 polyester tents for the cost of one decent quality canvas tent.

We are caravanners and tent campers and bought our first airbeam tent last year and think its brilliant. We bought the Vango Capri 500xl 2018 model for just the two of us too use. Its so easy to put up and take down. It fits in the bag without issue if you follow the instructions.This year I have seen it for sale between 499 and 699.
Its also nice and bright inside the living area which we prefer. You are also able to adjust the amount of ventilation inside the tent.

You seem to have the right idea by going to have a look at some erected. I am sure you will find one you like within your budget.

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24/2/2019 at 10:12am
 Location: Suffolk
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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 22/2/2019
I've become a bit of a tent snob, as I've taken the 6.5 year journey through my camping career (thus far).

I could arguably be within my rights to say I now have the best of the best...
but not because of the exquisite workmanship...
not because of the European-wide renown and high regard for the brand...
not because it is not only inflatable, but the most robust inflatable system on the market, tried, tested, and proven, with over 30 years of history and unfailing reputation! (inflatable tents are not new!)

My unadulterated snobbishness comes from sleeping under canvas! Not in the "well known phrase or saying" sense, but in the real sense... 100% cotton canvas!

Ok, if pushed, I would go back to polycotton, but polyester? After this? I'd rather stay in a travel lodge!

So I guess what I'm saying is... Are you asking the right question? Do you have your priorities right? Is pitching time and effort more important than quality and comfort?

I'd say unto thee, ask not "inflatable v pole", but rather "Cotton canvas v polyester"!

If you can consider polyester after what you have been used to, then you are a better man than me, Ms Mouse!



... Did I mention I've become a tent snob?   




*(The size, shape, and inflatabilityness of the tents you're looking at will be fine... just think about polycotton as a minimum... for your own sanity!)




... and yes... of course "inflatabilityness" is a word... I ain't fick!





24/2/2019 at 12:43pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 18/2/2019
The only air tent that I would consider is the Karsten, all the rest are poor imitations of the concept.

Thankfully as our tent is a Cabanon Cotton tent with ZiG, changing to an air tent is something that I don't have to consider.



Absolute RUBBISH. Karsten make good tents but Vango, as early fore-runners of the valve technology, also produce excellent air beam tents at sensible prices.


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I am not sure that comment makes any sense Tupik, as my statement about Karsten is personal, based on viewing them in comparison to other inflatable tents.

I would not say that you have made a RUBBISH choice in buying a Vango inflatable tent, I am just saying that it can't hold a candle to a Karsten imho.

And is probably the reason why Karsten are premium priced compared to other makes of inflatable tent, it is what it is.


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It makes perfect sense.

I wasn't denegrading your choice, far from it. I did say that they make good tents and they do. However, let me quote you:

The only air tent that I would consider is the Karsten, all the rest are poor imitations of the concept.

Poor imitation indeed! The Vango TC series are well made, reliable, stable and affordable. OK, they won't probably stand a lifetime's abuse that top tier tents will, but I know from close on 45 years camping experience, they're more than up to the job and far from a "poor imitation of cencept" unless of course you're saying that they've copied the Karsten system, which quite patently, they have not.

That was the point I was trying to make.


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24/2/2019 at 5:24pm
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I have owned both pole tents and airbeam tents and had no problem with either. Yes the airbeam was faster to erect and felt really sturdy. Both types have now been sold because for us and without a doubt the best tent we have owned is our Bell tent. Its so easy to erect and I would bet faster than any airbeam tent, and its canvas. We have no plans to get rid of ours,BUT if I was looking for a new tent and one I think would suit you is THIS And its from Gary, who is a well trusted and popular supplier on this forum.   Watch the videos to see just how quick and easy these types of tents are.


I am defo not a tent snob
That Mucker a snob, dont make me laugh, he's even got plastic grass in his garden.


24/2/2019 at 6:50pm
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+1, huge fan of the bell tent design

-but then everyone is a fan of their chosen tent or type of tent.....


25/2/2019 at 7:00am
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An update on the saga so far:

Yesterday we had an outing to https://www.attwoolls.co.uk - an amazing place with loads and loads of tents pitched, to nose around.

First observation - they were ALL airbeam! They seem to be pushing this model hard at the moment, for whatever reason.

It was great to walk round and see them for real. But we didn't actually make a purchase in the end. There were quite a lot to choose from with the 3-room model that we really like - the vast majority, in fact. The devil, of course, is in the detail, when they start to vary quite a lot.

The sales person pushed us towards Vango, rather than Outwell, as the guarantee is 3 years if you register on line, and it's apparently quicker and easier to get spare parts.

We were worried about the pack size of some of them. With my husband's back being potentially dodgy, it doesn't seem a good idea to buy a 50kg package! Also, the amount of mesh panels and open-able bits varies a lot. It's hard for us to judge just how important this will be with polyester.

With many of the packages, I don't know if we'd get them into the loft, which would be a storage problem. I wonder if it's ok to keep polyester tents in the garden shed?

The kids really liked the Vango Maritsa 2018, which was radically reduced in price. It's an interesting shape - slightly different, which is nice in a way. There are lots of mesh panels and two that open completely in the main room, which would be lovely. Also it is generally higher spec than our budget, and the bedroom divides zip in, rather than just toggling at the corners. (The kids find this important for some reason...) However the material is heavier and I guess better quality, which makes it come out at a whopping 49kg. We looked at the pack in the warehouse and said no, too heavy. Kids disappointed.

We were breifly seduced by the Vango Valencia but decided that it's probably more tent than we're really looking for. It's still 36.2 kg, which is pretty hefty.

In the end, the most likely model seems to be the Vango Azura. It's 27.5kg, which seems more manageable, and is still a load of tent for your money. (Much bigger than our Cabanon.) There's not quite as many nice features to please the kids, and not quite so many nice openy-bits to please me. So we weren't exactly in love with it. Which seems a shame! So the jury is still out. It's likely we'll come back and order this online sometime if we don't find anything better though.

We saw one reduced light polycotton, which was almost a decent weight. But it was only 5 birth - 3 bedroom pods is non-negotiable. I haven't found anything similar online so far.

Also, we looked at the bell tents online. Unfortunately I don't think it's for us, as they are very heavy. And the kids are stuck on the separate bedroom pods. Unfortunately!

I'll let you know what we decide...


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Regarding the problem with the weight of tents and possibly doing your back in.
I bought a lightweight trolley with wide plastic wheels a good few years ago to use when solo camping.
It is also ideal for hauling the Vango airbeam tent from car to pitch etc.

It folds down to half its size and weighs next to nothing and the wide plastic wheels stops it digging into the soft grass etc.

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25/2/2019 at 11:55am
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Although not keen myself, there are many polyester bell tents out there and can be had with bedroom compartments?



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