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Message posted by NazSaz28/10/2021 at 8:12pm
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Hi guys, thank you for looking. I'm new to camping, and having been poorly, I want to get out, even in cold weather, though I'm still not flexible as I was. Was wanting an easy pitch tent for up to two adults, 3 as push very occasionally. It's probably unlikely but was wanting something that is sturdy for long use at a time. I've narrowed it down to Kampa Brean 4 air or Berghaus air 4. Does anyone have any experience of them both whether they are suitable and if so, any preference. From pictures, the Kampa looks better quality but that maybe because it's smaller and the colour. Apologies if repeat post! Regards, Naz.

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Message posted by Mitchamitri02/11/2021 at 8:41am
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Long use at a time you want to be spending good money on a good cotton or pc tent, particularly if you are camping off season.   

The Kampa, Berg etc are fantastic tents (we have a Kampa) but you want to be investing in a tent rather than just buying one given your planned use - which means spending proper money. I wouldnt use the kampa, Berg etc for sustained off season camping. Or pick up a second hand trailer tent so you'll be more off the floor.

Regardless, dont buy anything you havent seen "in the flesh", and watch the attwools "putting tent up" vids on youtube. Repeat a thousand times - don't buy a tent you haven't seen first-hand "up".    

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Also wondering, if you will be doing longer camping trips, why having an inflatable tent actually matters. Your logic doesn't seem to make sense? The time saving for an air tent is small anyway (honestly it does not take "seconds" - you still have to peg them out, put them away etc) and for winter camping I'd go steel pole (or Karsten if I could afford it).

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Hi, thank you for your reply! Typical for me, nice timing I ordered a few hours previous to your reply for a Kampa Hayling 4 air. With potential supply chain issues I saw it on offer, and get more space, so grabbed. As you say it is an investment, but it's not cotton or pc. I intend to maybe do a tour, possibly on my own, so wanted something I could pitch myself. As my plans are in flux, I did want something that had potential as a medium term temporary home. Where I live I'm not aware of any camping outlets with tents on display having looked at the Kampa retailer list, so was relying on Attwoolls overviews on youtube. Is there anything you could recommend as an alternative? If I could afford I would have gone max on something tough, as it is I stretched. Thank you again for taking the time to reply.

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Message posted by Mitchamitri03/11/2021 at 8:17am
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We have a big kampa studland, our friends have a hayling and it's a fantastic tent.......I wouldnt use it as a "Medium term temporary home" though. Condensation will be a nightmare off season.

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Message posted by NazSaz08/11/2021 at 5:52pm
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Hi. Thank you for your response again. I appreciate your advice! The delay is in me thinking and looking into what you are saying. I'm a complete novice, and never even contemplated problems of tent management. I bought the Hayling as said, not unpacked yet as I want to think. It's nice to know I made a decent choice for a tent, though not maybe not suitable as temporary home. I think polycotton seems more suitable, but think these are out of my price bracket.

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I totally agree with Mitchamitri; if you intend using the tent for extended periods and in all seasons, as a temporary home (although it could be argued we all use our tents as our temporary homes!) I would go for either an all-season polyester, a cotton canvas or a polycotton (with the polycotton being third choice). These tent canvas types are not just nicer to live under, they perform better, will last longer and will have a better resale value if and when you decide to change or sell.

There's not many used tent sales about at this time of year but it's worth checking out the ads on here, as well as eBay, Gumtree, Preloved etc.

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Message posted by NazSaz10/11/2021 at 6:28pm
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Hi lidds0! Thank you too for the input. I bought the Kampa Hayling polyester thinking cracked it for space, but it seems clear it is unsuitable for extended use. I've not heard of all season polyester, that's something too can look at. I spent decent amount of cash for me, so don't want something that I can't spend any extended period of time.

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If I wanted a tent that's easy to pitch and travel, but suitable for a home for a year for example, does anyone know if a canvas bell tent would be more suitable than Kampa Hayling? I have a log burner so would get the flashing kit and fitment. Saw some offers at Bell Tent Village.

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Have you got a big car or trailer or roof box? Because your kit is bulking up! An oil filled radiator might be better than a log burner (smaller, lighter, leave it on all night assuming you’re on EHU, less fire risk etc).
And we had a kinda bell tent - a Cabanon Pyramide. Brilliant thing, we could stand up in the centre, it was gale proof (proper Scottish west coast gales), but it was heavy & bulky.
For living long term, there may be other stuff you’ll need too that you wouldn’t need for a few weeks away: paperwork, more variety of clothes & shoes, a better chair, decent SIM or whatever you’re going to sleep on, maybe a tog 15 duvet rather than a sleeping bag. Volume & weight are at a premium.

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Message posted by NazSaz16/11/2021 at 5:31am
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Hi Fiona, thank you for your kind response. As my friends told me, I'm starting to verge on glamping. The idea of living in it was just a backup concept. I started off with the idea of two weeks, travelling to remotish places, probably Scotland, hence why I thought the Kampa Hayling Air was suitable. After advice, I agree canvas maybe nicer to have, and have seen tuareg tent with standing room and quick pitch, but the weight is double that of the Kampa, and I struggle with that as recovering from being poorly, I thought about a dolly trolley. I have the oil filled radiator, have battery lights, rechargeable lantern, solar lights for backup, pop up shower tent, cassette loo, camp bed, trying to cover all bases of touring, long term pitch, EHU and off grid. Maybe I am expecting too much! The silly thing is I'm stuck on the main item, the tent. I have a medium hatchback, but all the rear seating area with folded boot. I would just about get it all in, but I haven't seen the size of canvas tent yet.

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Message posted by NazSaz16/11/2021 at 5:36am
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I definitely need standing room and quick pitch tent as my back is crackered.

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I'm not homeless or anything, but as I was poorly was in my lockdown before lockdown, and have realised I want to connect more with the outdoors but not fit enough to go trekking in the woods.

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You talk of “travelling to remotish places”, probably Scotland. A MH or campervan can stop overnight in a remote car park (maybe with many others). Wild camping in a tent is included in our access legislation but with the caveat of it being “responsible access”. (Google the Scottish Outdoor Code). Glamping is common on campsites, there are many inexpensive remote ones in the UKCS site search.
Finally, “dirty camping” is not an option just because you’re remote: find out what your responsible options are for dealing with toileting. Your minimum requirement is a folding spade, bulkier options thereafter.

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Thank you for that! BTW I didn't mean the entirety of Scotland as being remote, ha ha. I lived in Fife for 3 years. I check out Scottish Outdoor Code, and I'm not the sort to leave a mess behind. Literally leave as best I can as I found. Do you have any opinion, or suggestion yourself, on a tent if I can be cheeky?

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I'd love a motorhome but well out of price range at the moment, and I'm not sure what state caravan I would get for tent money.


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