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04/8/2005 at 8:55pm
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Quote: Originally posted by srnet on 04/08/2005
Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 04/08/2005
The SIG versus non-SIG argument must be as old as this forum.
I suppose the argument started as soon as the SIG was invented, off course before that time everyone managed perfectly well without them.
It`s purely personal preference in the end.
Absolutly.
I prefer a flysheet first, loose central groundsheet design like my Colorado.
Me too, same arrangement on my Khyam.
I used to dream about a SIG years before they were invented, but didn't think it would be practicable, but now they are and I've got one its absolutely great and I wouldnt be without it, but of course, I have one of the few that don't erect inner 1st. The only other disadvantages mentioned by non-SIG lovers are the cleaning of the groundsheet, the bulk when packed, and the ventilation. Well, I use the cheap tarp. underneath as mentioned by many on these forums, and as I don't need such a huge tent as some on here, the pack size is no problem either, and as for ventilation, the Weathermaster Plus has excellent ventilation on the walls and roof, so it doesn't need ankle level ventilation. Sorry, I'm going on, I know your tents are just want you want and so is mine.
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04/8/2005 at 8:58pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Lauren2005 on 04/08/2005
Absolutly.
I prefer a flysheet first, loose central groundsheet design like my Colorado.
Me too, same arrangement on my Khyam.
What does that bit mean? Whats a loose central one? You mean bits of grass poking at the sides not attached, just GS in centre?
Post last edited on 04/08/2005 20:52:19
Means a loose groundsheet that fits the living area ansd SIGs for the individual pods. It just so happens that I have a cruciform tent where there are three pods facing into a centre area, and the central groundsheet covers this area and out into the tunnel entrance portch, where it has stormflaps on the three sides of the portch.
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04/8/2005 at 9:25pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 04/08/2005
I do prefer the improved ventilation, lighter pack weight, easier cleaning of the smaller tent sections, no disasters if the central groundsheet tears etc etc. And it`s easier to pitch a flysheet first tent tight IMHO.
Val, as you know I was highly sceptical about this issue last year but with the arrival of more flyfirst sewnin groundsheet tents I have gone fully over to the SIG side.
None of the disadvantages you mention above apply to the Montana 6 which we have. It is very well ventilated, as light and as easy to pitch (or easier) than the highly comparable Colorado 8 we had before, easypeasy to keep clean (just throw a rectangular tarp down before the rectangular tent and bob's your uncle), ditto the tarp protects the groundsheet from tears from underneath and we've never ripped a groundsheet from above before so don't waste time worrying that we're going to start now .
However, given the choice between one of the big inner first dome tents with a SIG and going back to our Colorado 8 without a SIG, it would be the Colorado 8 every time. MT
Post last edited on 04/08/2005 21:30:15
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