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Message posted by Whimp14/7/2014 at 7:55pm
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Because I only have the sleeping area with a sig, I can see your point, although it is swings and roundabouts. With a sig you have the choice on what to do. A simple way to help with such conditions is to use eyelets stamped into the base of the sig at strategic points. This allows you to get rid of all those nasty spills whilst maintaining, to a large extent, the reason for a sig. :)

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Message posted by Filbee14/7/2014 at 10:59pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Whimp on 14/7/2014
Because I only have the sleeping area with a sig, I can see your point, although it is swings and roundabouts. With a sig you have the choice on what to do. A simple way to help with such conditions is to use eyelets stamped into the base of the sig at strategic points. This allows you to get rid of all those nasty spills whilst maintaining, to a large extent, the reason for a sig. :)



So long as you get to it before it's travelled around the tent and under things making it hard to get a sponge to it - I had to empty the porch of stuff sometimes to get to it all. There's much better things to be doing at festivals :)

Much prefer the open feeling of a porch with no GS at all tbh and no puddling issues (and no valance to step over).


Message posted by Whimp27/7/2014 at 4:03pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Filbee on 14/7/2014

So long as you get to it before it's travelled around the tent and under things making it hard to get a sponge to it - I had to empty the porch of stuff sometimes to get to it all. There's much better things to be doing at festivals :)

Much prefer the open feeling of a porch with no GS at all tbh and no puddling issues (and no valance to step over).





I tend to picture something without explaining fully :)
You put eyelets in at strategic points, and then insert a ground anchor at each of those points, usually along an edge. Because the fabric is pulled down at those points, fluids naturally travel down towards the eyelet. Where you put those eyelets is down to you, so a bit of forethought is needed. However for a concert, cheap and cheerful is apt and if it has a sig, cut it out entirely, or just cut down one side. :)

Message posted by old witch04/1/2015 at 10:58pm
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Hi all, I have SIG and would never go back to part or no SIG !! Had beasties draughts water ingress without and none with one. Much cosier easy to erect, pack away and stays clean as we too use a tarpaulin under to throw or clean as needed and our SIG stays lovely ! Happy camping whatever your preference tho ! x

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Message posted by DeborahTurner05/3/2015 at 5:07pm
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Slugs.

I am changing my tent from one with no SIG in the porch area because of slugs.

I had to unwrap a slug from inside my stove before I could put a new gas canister in.

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Message posted by Oldboiler02/8/2016 at 8:07am
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Try a de-ward Smaragdeend tent, the sig is like a butoil rubber that you lay out and peg before zipping the canvas to it and erecting the tent, the inner tent then zips in and you have the best sleeping area and dressing areas with the porch area open to the elements, best tent we have ever owned, expensive, but if your a seasoned camper and amortise the cost over 10 years it's not bad at all

Message posted by sitnievasnie12/8/2016 at 4:03pm
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Hi All...

well we in South Africa have a number of very very nasty snakes and other reptiles and some really nasty venomous scorpions amongst other things that bite & sting...

The world's most dangerous creature is the tiny, malaria carrying mosquito....

IMHO, The tent must secure my sleep zone from intrusion by aforesaid & weather....

SIG is almost not negotable


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Message posted by Caligula26/8/2016 at 11:08pm
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I'm not in South Africa (though born and raised in West Africa!)... am now in Suffolk......however have a lavvu with no groundsheet and don't need it...have 2 GC tents, one with SIG that's fine and one without...that has the ability to roll up and tie up the walls on a warm day, and thereby also, a properly sized sheet can then be also tied up to form a tray. Win, Win.......

Message posted by Rhj29627/8/2016 at 5:15am
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Sewn in for my previous tent and now zipped in for my Cabanon due to the weight. I would be impossible to lift otherwise.

We went to collect junior rhj296 from a scout camp and saw that he was sleeping in a tent which had just a tarpaulin on the grass. Hardly worthy of the name groundsheet. It looked very cold and draughty indeed. He said that in the night it was freezing due to the wind whistling through and it was a fight to avoid being near the edges where it was coldest.

I think we have 'spoiled' him with the goodlife !!!

Message posted by Caligula26/10/2016 at 11:42am
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As with your Cabanon, separate groundsheets have many options now for ensuring you don't get wet or draughty, whether a little oversize sheet as on my lavvu, tie ups as on my Good Companion without sig, or peg in on modern bell tent, and clip in on the Blacks Solace.

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Message posted by mopar44002/8/2017 at 12:29pm
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We use a Campfeuer 5000 with a SIG and its perfect for us. No draughts, water or bugs.

One of the big advantages of this tent is the 2 square meter mesh panel in the roof with its own separate skin above it. This means zero condensation, no rain ingress (the recent Kent weather tried its best!) and no cooking smells off our Kampa hotplate.



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Message posted by krazekt31/1/2020 at 10:05am
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Deffo sewn in for me. I have one with out and its miles better sewn in, but it's each to their own and what works best for you.

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Message posted by Durhamborn11/8/2021 at 12:10pm
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Hello guys,just joined.We have a tent with two bedrooms with SIG but none in the living area.I didnt like it at first,but now prefer it.The tent is 560cm x 320cm so i bought a 6x4 tarp and simply gaffer tape it inside to the fly wall.Takes about 5 minutes and 40p worth of tape a trip.I find this gets the best of both worlds,SIG in bedrooms,sit on top of full sized tarp very little wind or slugs etc,but much easier to clean,repair if needed,sort out any spill etc etc.I buy a bulk box of gaffer tape on Ebay.
I fully understand why lots prefer SIG but with a few minutes work you can have the best of both.The only issue is having to step over the lip at the doors but i simply have cuts down the tarp there and fold it under while doors are open.

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