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22/2/2007 at 4:31pm
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Don't you just wish there was an international website, with images and detail on every tent in the range? Just imagine how their sales would increase!

Reckon one would be winging its way to our house!



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02/5/2007 at 10:36pm
 Location: hackney
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Does anyone know if theres a way of buying second hand de Waard tents? I trawl the internet from time to time but have no luck.


03/5/2007 at 7:49am
 Location: the Netherlands
 Outfit: De Waard Roerdomp Zilverplevier etc.
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Yes. I do know. You can try my website www.dewaardforum.nl or www.marktplaats.nl As you will understand most tents are in the Netherlands.

Nothing to do this weekend (5&6 May)? There is a show on a campsite were every tent in the collection will be shown.. But it is a long drive for you guys.....

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06/5/2007 at 9:19pm
 Location: hackney
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Thanks, I saw a lot of great photos that were much more enlightening than the artist sketches in the de waard catatlogue, but I don't understand Dutch.

Can you tell me what are the differences between the albatross and the jan van ghent? The jan van ghent seems to have better headroom and less wasted space all round, although the albatross is obviously the most popular choice judging by how many you see in this country.


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07/5/2007 at 3:19pm
 Location: village on River Kennet
 Outfit: Vaude Sly Fox and De Waard Lepelaar
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Just got back from the De Waard tent exhibition mentioned by Rolph. We are now the proud owners of a Lepelaar tent We drove all the way via the Channel tunnel leaving home about 11 pm Friday (after a few hours nap after work) via the Channel Tunnel, through the north of France, Belgium and into the Netherlands. It was a straight forward journey, with very good roads, but long. A surprising amount of traffic considering it was dawn on a Saturday. Got there about 8am. put our little over night two man tent up (same campsite as the exhibition). Then - the bit we had been waiting for - seeing the tents. I was so excited. There was a field full of all the different De Waard models and we were given a conducted tour by Martin (who spoke very good English). This lasted about two hours as we studied all the pros and cons. We had intended getting the Stormmieu but actually liked the look of the Lepelaar better; the curved front of the Stormmieu didn't look quite right. The Lepelaar on site was already sold but Martin managed to get our tent and all the additional bits from two of their shops and had it delivered that evening. Otherwise it would have meant a 10 week wait whilst it was made. Meanwhile we returned to our tent for a bit of a sleep! The next morning - Sunday, Martin showed us how to put it up and take it down correctly and checked everything was there. He couldn't have been more helpful. We set off for home after lunch and we were indoors before 10.30 pm Sunday. It's amazing what you can do in a weekend if you set your mind to it, but I am pleased it's a holiday today. Yes it was expensive but this is our retirement present to ourselves and some people could have spent the same amount on a single holiday. We intend to try the tent out at the end of May. Just a bit worried that now we might look a bit out of place in a Rolls Royce tent at a camp site with a load of "old bangers". But I think I will enjoying people sidling round our tent to have a closer look see. Just like we did last summer when we spotted a Dutch Tent at the Fisherground site in the Lake District. I envisage our six grown up children arguing over who will inherit the tent!


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07/5/2007 at 3:58pm
 Location: the Netherlands
 Outfit: De Waard Roerdomp Zilverplevier etc.
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If only I would have known.. I was also there and have seen you guys with the nice green Lepelaar on Sunday (and the red Rover ;))

We were on the campside behind the spot were you got the instruction from Martijn (not Martin ;)) Here's a picture:
http://www.dewaardforum.nl/album_showpage.php?pic_id=553&user_id=2

Have a very very nice time in your great tent!

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07/5/2007 at 5:51pm
 Location: village on River Kennet
 Outfit: Vaude Sly Fox and De Waard Lepelaar
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Dear Rolph, That was us! And the Red Rover did us proud. Got your picture. Would add one of my own if I knew how to do it.


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07/5/2007 at 10:32pm
 Location: the Netherlands
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If you like you can mail me some nice pictures: info at dewaardforum.nl

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14/5/2007 at 11:28am
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Quote: Originally posted by bowerbird on 07/5/2007


Just got back from the De Waard tent exhibition mentioned by Rolph. We are now the proud owners of a Lepelaar tent We drove all the way via the Channel tunnel leaving home about 11 pm Friday (after a few hours nap after work) via the Channel Tunnel, through the north of France, Belgium and into the Netherlands. It was a straight forward journey, with very good roads, but long. A surprising amount of traffic considering it was dawn on a Saturday. Got there about 8am. put our little over night two man tent up (same campsite as the exhibition). Then - the bit we had been waiting for - seeing the tents. I was so excited. There was a field full of all the different De Waard models and we were given a conducted tour by Martin (who spoke very good English). This lasted about two hours as we studied all the pros and cons. We had intended getting the Stormmieu but actually liked the look of the Lepelaar better; the curved front of the Stormmieu didn't look quite right. The Lepelaar on site was already sold but Martin managed to get our tent and all the additional bits from two of their shops and had it delivered that evening. Otherwise it would have meant a 10 week wait whilst it was made. Meanwhile we returned to our tent for a bit of a sleep! The next morning - Sunday, Martin showed us how to put it up and take it down correctly and checked everything was there. He couldn't have been more helpful. We set off for home after lunch and we were indoors before 10.30 pm Sunday. It's amazing what you can do in a weekend if you set your mind to it, but I am pleased it's a holiday today. Yes it was expensive but this is our retirement present to ourselves and some people could have spent the same amount on a single holiday. We intend to try the tent out at the end of May. Just a bit worried that now we might look a bit out of place in a Rolls Royce tent at a camp site with a load of "old bangers". But I think I will enjoying people sidling round our tent to have a closer look see. Just like we did last summer when we spotted a Dutch Tent at the Fisherground site in the Lake District. I envisage our six grown up children arguing over who will inherit the tent!

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly did you end up buying (re: tent and 'additional bits'), and what did you end up paying?

Anyone have any idea when the next display is to be held? Sounds very interesting.



15/5/2007 at 8:40pm
 Location: London
 Outfit: Karsten 350
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Hi wlee

Thanks for your help in 2005. I ended up getting the bigger brother of your Karsten, I went the 350. I had a zip put in for a sleeping extension but I find the main tend more than big enough for us. Especially as my kids now sleep in their own tent. However, I had to wait until the following year before I could afford to get the awning extension and the front wall.


What good tents they are. As you say, the ventilation is so controllable, it's almost like air conditioning. It was so much cooler than my sisters blue tent which is made out of nylon. I also noticed that in the wind the Karsten made little noise, more, it didn't flinch in Welsh cliff top weather that killed my last three tents.

Yet in calm weather you hardly need to peg it out, setting up camp is so much quicker than with traditional tents, and my back is not what it was.

Thanks again wlee. You may be interested to know that there was an English company making inflatable tents in the 1970's. They were called the "Pneumatic Tent Company" and were based in the south of England. My parents had a PTC which I found clearing out the loft.It was past it's best and ended up in the bin, and yes I remember it deflating one wet night on the same Welsh cliff I lost 2 tents 30 years later.

The service from Mark at Camping Direct, the UK agent for Karsten, was second to none. Oh and yes, he does speak English and you can see them at his shop in Norfolk.

What ever happened to the Pneumatic Tent Company?





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16/5/2007 at 8:11pm
 Location: village on River Kennet
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Hi Liddenham,

As I said, the model we bought is the Lepelaar, we also bought the inner tent (binnentent); this is not strictly necessary as inner curtains come with it, but I do like to be warm and snug. We also bought 2 windshields (windscherms) and the varioluifel (variable awning) and a triangular storage thing. The whole lot came to 2,812 euros. A carpet for the living areas was thrown in for free. We paid in euros cash because we were advised that any card tranaction would have quite a hefty fee attached. Don't know when the next exhibition is to be held. I would e-mail one of their shops and ask. De Waard were very good at replying in English. We are going to Sutherland, Scotland to try it out over the half term holiday.



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17/5/2007 at 4:14pm
 Location: Zoetermeer Holland
 Outfit: Chateau 430 Nice
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at Pauljaceay: Glad to have been of help.
Same experience with us: the kids want to have their own little tent, but still in bad weather one enjoys the space in the main tent and in case one of the small tents breaks down or leaks the Karsten will hold and offer enough space to seleep well.

In fact Karsten, De Waard and Randstad all are of similar qualit, but they have tehir own advantages and disadvantages. Karstens strong points is ease of setting up and the ventilation system.De Waard and Randstad need loads of pegs, but offer some more space (ready sleeping spaces). Karsten has better standing height all around the tent due to the dome shape.

Randstad is similar to De Waard (they were brothers who got into a fight inheriting the business of their father), but has a little bit different shape of the groundsheet (better for tall people) and a bit deeper fixed canopy. The other differences are not important. 

But again, all are top quality and stand extremely bad weather. I owned a Randstad first, later the Karsten and had heavy fall winds and thunder in the pyrenees with them. Got guests as their tent collapsed. That's when the kids came inside too as their small cheap tent leaked and kept being blown flat (small dome).

For both tents I usually used rock pegs as the camping areas usually were a bit rocky. I always enjoyed the secure feeling in them very much. On top of that I loved the fast and easy pitching of the Karsten.

Although the owners of e Waard, Randstad and Karsten are very fanatic towards their own brand, in the end it is a matter of preference and personal needs.
Enjoy camping.

at Liddenham: Of course I don't know about displays in the UK. As to displays in Holland, one does not really need them. Karsten has all tents displayed in their factory-shop plus two or three Randstad ones. De Waard has all of them displayed in their shop. Randstad has all or most of them displayed in their shop.
The larger camping shows like from the ANWB are early in the year (March or april).



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31/5/2007 at 11:10pm
 Location: The Netherlands
 Outfit: Randstad Bever and Nomad Desert Storm
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If anyone is thinking of buying a new Randstad, now's the time. Randstad saw a large export order cancelled, and are offering those tents with a discount of hundreds of euros. More info:
http://www.randstadkampeersport.nl/SITE/Actieprijs.htm
The collection can be viewed on: http://www.randstadkampeersport.nl/collectie.htm

I am the proud (Dutch) owner of a Randstad Bever (now known as Jupiter). However, tomorrow I'm not anymore. Since my wife and kids made it clear that they didn't want to go camping ever again, I kept it in storage for a couple of years and finally decided to sell it. (With pain in my heart, I must admit) I offered the tent on ebay.nl and got several reactions from the UK, including that of the buyer who is coming to pick it up tomorrow.

Randstad tents are hardly ever offered on Ebay. That's because most Dutch do not expect any interest from abroad, and another auction site (www.marktplaats.nl) is far more popular. A simple query for a second hand Randstad (or De Waard) there will certainly get a number of results.

In one of the first posts of this thread, back in 2005, the name De Wit is mentioned. De Wit is a large Dutch camping shop and is one of the major Randstad dealers. (http://www.de-wit.nl) They have an online shop, but they only deliver to the Netherlands and Belgium. It is possible to collect the tents after you've ordered them. The also have their own brand of tents. Some of them are similar to the Randstad pyramid-tents...... From a distance, that is. The quality is definitely less, but so is the price. Many Dutch campers, who would like to have a de Waard or a Randstad, but could not afford one eventually buy a de Wit. IMHO a de Wit owner will finally regret that decision.


04/6/2007 at 6:53pm
 Location: South West
 Outfit: Lots of Cabanons + Freighter 600
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Hello toine1962, 

I am seriously considering buying an Esvo Snoek can you tell me if these tents are of a good quality and can they be compared with Randstad or De Waard? 

I have been trying to find out more information on this forum but have had no replies so far. 

Karen

 



04/6/2007 at 6:59pm
 Location: the Netherlands
 Outfit: De Waard Roerdomp Zilverplevier etc.
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There a little less. The finishing is at a different level. Not a bad tent but not a De Waard.
You can also look at Carl Denig, Slee, Erdmann Smidt. Also quality Dutch tents. But at the top are De Waard and Karsten.

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04/6/2007 at 8:05pm
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From looking at toine1962's link I could get a Randstad Jupiter for not much more than the Esvo Snoek, would this be a better buy do you think? 

 




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