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Message posted by Colin2115/6/2020 at 5:10pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Mrs E on 15/6/2020
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 14/6/202

Who needs campsite showers when you have a caravan or campervan?



We have a SWB T5 campervan. I wouldn't be bothered if we were in a caravan as we'd be able to use our own facilities and it wouldn't be an issue.



Well we do have our own facilities in our caravan, but we only tend to use them at night. Our shower compartment is rather cramped, and to have a decent shower takes a fair amount of water, which has to be fetched. Why bother, when it's only a short stroll to the shower block, and I probably need the exercise anyway.

The same thing applies to the toilet really. If we used our own facilities all the time, it would mean far more trips to the emptying point, and more chemical. We are off-site most of most days anyway, so we only use either when we are on the site.


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I wonder if the chap that we witnessed cleaning his teeth at the pot-washing sinks (including final rinse, gargle and spit!) instead of using the plentiful wash basins (both open and in cubicles) will still be camping this year!

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Message posted by franbee15/6/2020 at 8:15pm
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Yes, we've witnessed a fair amount of that sort of behaviour too, mucker. You sometimes wonder what people do at home.....
Though not Brits, we don't see many of those on the campsites we use in France.

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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 15/6/2020
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 15/6/2020
I honestly don't understand how any campsite can get round the hygiene issues of shared toilet and wash facilities. They can impose a 'one in one out' sort of system but bearing in mind the virus can stay active on plastic and other surfaces for up to 72 hours and most toilet seats are plastic, and sink surrounds are shiny surfaces, how are they going to solve that issue.

Even if campsites open their toilet facilities I can't bring myself to wanting to share them at the present time unless they have a permanent toilet cleaner inside, armed with effective sanitiser to clean all surfaces in between each visit.



This is why I am using site toilets as my safety guide. When the opening of site toilets everywhere is considered normal again, I will consider it safe to go caravanning. The risk will be back to what it was before the virus struck, so only normal precautions will be necessary.




Well that is the problem, Colin...just because campsites open the toilet facilities doesn't mean the virus has gone away. Keeping the facilities closed one day and deciding to open them the next day is no guarantee they will be virus free.

I am hoping my camping days are not over yet, at least while I am still fairly fit and healthy, but I may have to invest in a porta pottie as I don't think I will ever feel safe sharing public facilities again.



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If you take normal hygiene precautions you shouldn't be any more at risk.
You catch the virus by inhaling the virus droplets from someone who has coughed them out, or by picking the virus up on your fingers and transferring it to your mouth, nose or eyes. The second scenario can be overcome by washing hands properly and regularly. The first is more difficult to avoid in enclosed spaces, which is why they recommend face coverings, but don't forget, not everyone has the virus.

We've always been very careful on public transport, we carry thin gloves to put on, and avoid touching the poles and straps, and avoid people coughing....

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Quote: Originally posted by franbee on 16/6/2020
If you take normal hygiene precautions you shouldn't be any more at risk.
You catch the virus by inhaling the virus droplets from someone who has coughed them out, or by picking the virus up on your fingers and transferring it to your mouth, nose or eyes. The second scenario can be overcome by washing hands properly and regularly. The first is more difficult to avoid in enclosed spaces, which is why they recommend face coverings, but don't forget, not everyone has the virus.

We've always been very careful on public transport, we carry thin gloves to put on, and avoid touching the poles and straps, and avoid people coughing....



1200 people a day probably thought the same as you


Message posted by Colin2116/6/2020 at 11:11am
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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 16/6/2020


This is why I am using site toilets as my safety guide. When the opening of site toilets everywhere is considered normal again, I will consider it safe to go caravanning. The risk will be back to what it was before the virus struck, so only normal precautions will be necessary.




Well that is the problem, Colin...just because campsites open the toilet facilities doesn't mean the virus has gone away. Keeping the facilities closed one day and deciding to open them the next day is no guarantee they will be virus free.

I am hoping my camping days are not over yet, at least while I am still fairly fit and healthy, but I may have to invest in a porta pottie as I don't think I will ever feel safe sharing public facilities again.



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What I meant Bob is when it becomes normal again for all sites to have their toilets and showers in use, I will consider it just as safe as it was before. On the other hand, while any site keeps their toilets closed I won't consider it safe. Obviously, using shared facilities is never going to be completely safe, it never was, but once they are all open again, it will be no less safe than it was before Covid.

Before Covid I didn't consider site toilets any less safe than public toilets in the street, in pubs, restaurants, hotels etc. In fact most site toilets I have seen I would consider better maintained than some public toilets elsewhere.


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I wonder if campsites will reduce prices if no facilities available seems fair to knock a couple quid of a night,if like us be going away for a month.

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Well, I don't seem to have much choice but to buy a caravan then. Can anyone recommend a 2 berth caravan with shower and toilet, heater, sink, cooker, fridge etc; that I can tow with a Nissan Micra

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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 16/6/2020

What I meant Bob is when it becomes normal again for all sites to have their toilets and showers in use, I will consider it just as safe as it was before. On the other hand, while any site keeps their toilets closed I won't consider it safe. Obviously, using shared facilities is never going to be completely safe, it never was, but once they are all open again, it will be no less safe than it was before Covid.

Before Covid I didn't consider site toilets any less safe than public toilets in the street, in pubs, restaurants, hotels etc. In fact most site toilets I have seen I would consider better maintained than some public toilets elsewhere.




I suppose I was always a little OCD about sharing facilities so adding the threat of death to the mix is probably the final straw


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Message posted by Colin2116/6/2020 at 2:11pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 16/6/2020
Well, I don't seem to have much choice but to buy a caravan then. Can anyone recommend a 2 berth caravan with shower and toilet, heater, sink, cooker, fridge etc; that I can tow with a Nissan Micra



Not sure about that one Bob, I think you might be a bit limited there. Some of the older Elddis models are quite light. Our Wisp is under 1,000kg and its a 4 berth. Some of the 2 berth Wisps were lighter still.


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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 16/6/2020
Well, I don't seem to have much choice but to buy a caravan then. Can anyone recommend a 2 berth caravan with shower and toilet, heater, sink, cooker, fridge etc; that I can tow with a Nissan Micra



That's a bit extravagant, innit? A 2 berth, for Bobby no mates?   




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There are lists of sites with facilities open on C&CC site, also CMC although not all their sites allow tents.

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Whatever people's thoughts are on the situation regarding safety and hygiene there are thousands out there that are not worried one bit.
We have really missed our monthly caravan trips and so when we found out that sites were to open in July I tried to book one. Nothing. Rammed full, tried dozens of places, same thing.
These were all club sites as the independents I tried all emailed me to say they had not been notified they could open.
Our only hope is a little CS site near Cambridge we usually use as a stopover. It doesn't have showers or toilet but does have EHU so this will suit us fine especially if we are the only ones there.

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Quote: Originally posted by paul+julie on 16/6/2020
Whatever people's thoughts are on the situation regarding safety and hygiene there are thousands out there that are not worried one bit.
We have really missed our monthly caravan trips and so when we found out that sites were to open in July I tried to book one. Nothing. Rammed full, tried dozens of places, same thing.
These were all club sites as the independents I tried all emailed me to say they had not been notified they could open.
Our only hope is a little CS site near Cambridge we usually use as a stopover. It doesn't have showers or toilet but does have EHU so this will suit us fine especially if we are the only ones there.




To the best of my knowledge, no sites have been told they can open, it's just speculation on behalf of the Clubs. Unless of course they have been told something that isn't public knowledge.

Personally I find "there are thousands out there that are not worried one bit" more than a bit concerning. In my opinion, people not being worried is what is causing it to spread.


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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 16/6/2020
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 16/6/2020
Well, I don't seem to have much choice but to buy a caravan then. Can anyone recommend a 2 berth caravan with shower and toilet, heater, sink, cooker, fridge etc; that I can tow with a Nissan Micra



That's a bit extravagant, innit? A 2 berth, for Bobby no mates?   






I live in hope of getting a mate one day and need to be prepared



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