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Message posted by Colin2102/3/2021 at 10:57pm
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For me it's not a matter of whether we have our own facilities, we do, but it's a matter of safety. As I said when all this kicked off last year, in my opinion, if it isn't regarded as safe for all the facilities to be open, it isn't safe for me to visit. I'll stay at home until it is, as I'm not in that much of a panic. We didn't go away at all last year, and if things don't improve this year we won't be going away this year either. Fortunately it looks very much like they are improving though, and at least we have had our first jab. I'm forever hopeful.



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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 28/2/2021
Unfortunately of my two favourite campsites, one was closed all last year and doesn't know if or when it will open this year, and the other seems to be accepting a minimum of 5 nights only, which is no good for me.



An update on this...just checked the website of one of my favourite sites again (Bridge House at Lechlade) and they are now opening on 19th April but only for caravans and motorhomes with their own facilities on the grounds that they won't be able to open the campsite facilities.

I understand them not being able to open their facilities but why refuse tents if they have their own camping toilet? What is the difference?

I have been going there two or three times a year since 2004 and now they won't accept tents. So much for loyalty!


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I think there is a difference between supermarket facilities and campsites.

Only a small minority of customers use supermarket toilets, and only once per visit. Whereas on a campsite an infected person would use the toilets over 20 times in a 4 or 5 day stay, and their uninfected, at risk, fellow campers the same. Increasing the potential for an infective encounter.

Personally I think the camping risk is low: if sites keep the capacity down, there is a limit on people allowed in the block at any one time, opening alternate basins / cubicles etc, and keeping all the windows and doors open at all times for a good through howling gale!

Outdoor transmission is less of a risk, different family groups just need to socialise outside and avoid zipping themselves into one tent in the evenings.

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Check the site has its “Good to Go” certificate. That’s shows it’s passed Covid safety checks. Most of the sites we went to last year used a fob system - hang your fob outside, only 3 hooks, no free hook = no entry. They were regularly cleaned & there was plenty of fresh air.
I had a hissy fit in one shop (not a Good to Go site) at a site with statics, when a bunch of young men came in for more beer (doubling the stated maximum), none wearing masks (“oh, forgot”) and all crowded right up behind me. There was one young person behind the screen & they didn’t have the mature authority to boot them out. I found myself jabbing a finger at them & saying back off; i pointed at the masks for sale & said buy a mask - I might have said buy a [swearword-ing] mask, I was so angry. They just laughed.
Felt much much safer in the washrooms where I never met anyone except the cleaner.

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Bob, have you asked the site if they would accept tents with toilet facilities? it may not have occurred to them.

On another note, looking at sites for July, pricing up the Burford Club site (OHs nephew lives next to it), nearly £30 per night, ye gods! No wonder we use CLs/CSs where possible, but nephew and his girlfriend would think it very strange if we stayed elsewhere.

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Quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Bonce on 04/3/2021
Bob, have you asked the site if they would accept tents with toilet facilities? it may not have occurred to them.

On another note, looking at sites for July, pricing up the Burford Club site (OHs nephew lives next to it), nearly £30 per night, ye gods! No wonder we use CLs/CSs where possible, but nephew and his girlfriend would think it very strange if we stayed elsewhere.



If I decide it is safe enough to go camping this year I will certainly phone them and ask. I was a little annoyed that tent campers seem to be pushed to the bottom of the pile yet again as if we are going to be spreading the plague because we are not surrounded by tin walls!

With regards to the cost of campsites...am I right in believing that campsites are still on only 5% VAT and this has been extended for this year? The prices should be lower, not higher!


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Maybe some sites don't have chemical / toilet disposal points? And expect caravanners to take their full cassettes home with them?

I think last summer a lot of sites had bad experiences with campers resorting to cat litter and 'waste' in bin bags which were then put in the rubbish area - not nice for anyone.

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Quote: Originally posted by DeborahTurner on 04/3/2021
Maybe some sites don't have chemical / toilet disposal points? And expect caravanners to take their full cassettes home with them?

I think last summer a lot of sites had bad experiences with campers resorting to cat litter and 'waste' in bin bags which were then put in the rubbish area - not nice for anyone.




I don't think I've ever been on a site that didn't have chemical toilet disposal, I thought it was a legal requirement.

Last summer probably saw a lot more inexperienced campers, and it sounds like some of them didn't even have a grasp of the basics.

If a tent-camper has their own toilet facilities I see no reason whatsoever that they should be excluded, but maybe some sites did have problems with inexperienced ones last year. As usual, the few spoil it for the many, I suppose.


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I suppose the other difference with a caravan or motorhome is you have hot water on tap which makes hygiene much easier to keep to the standard needed just now. Again not as easy in a tent if no site facilities open.
I know it can be done with a pot or kettle but is everyone likely to do this as often as they should?

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We have a booking around the 20th April our caravan comes with a big end washroom looking forward to some different scenery

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Quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Bonce on 04/3/2021
On another note, looking at sites for July, pricing up the Burford Club site (OHs nephew lives next to it), nearly £30 per night, ye gods! No wonder we use CLs/CSs where possible, but nephew and his girlfriend would think it very strange if we stayed elsewhere.


VAT is still being charged at 5% according to the CAMC website, so that should knock a few quid off, nearly £4 I think, cheap at half the price! I agree with you though, no way would I pay that for a site.


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Well, Burford is "fully booked" for 9th/10th July which is what we wanted, so have booked Wysdom instead. From what I understand, people book and then unbook Club sites for weekends. Seeing as we will be on a trip, will try to book a week before in the hope that there will be room then. It will be OHs nephew's birthday then and would prefer to stay at the Club site across the road from him this one time.

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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 04/3/2021
Quote: Originally posted by DeborahTurner on 04/3/2021
Maybe some sites don't have chemical / toilet disposal points? And expect caravanners to take their full cassettes home with them?

I think last summer a lot of sites had bad experiences with campers resorting to cat litter and 'waste' in bin bags which were then put in the rubbish area - not nice for anyone.




I don't think I've ever been on a site that didn't have chemical toilet disposal, I thought it was a legal requirement.

Last summer probably saw a lot more inexperienced campers, and it sounds like some of them didn't even have a grasp of the basics.

If a tent-camper has their own toilet facilities I see no reason whatsoever that they should be excluded, but maybe some sites did have problems with inexperienced ones last year. As usual, the few spoil it for the many, I suppose.




Most of the campsites I use these days only have compost toilets, and ‘tent only’ sites don’t always have chemical disposal points even if they have flushing toilets.

People accomplished depths of stupidity last year that even inexperience wouldn’t excuse. Cat litter down the toilets, for example.


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Quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Bonce on 05/3/2021
Well, Burford is "fully booked" for 9th/10th July which is what we wanted, so have booked Wysdom instead. From what I understand, people book and then unbook Club sites for weekends. Seeing as we will be on a trip, will try to book a week before in the hope that there will be room then. It will be OHs nephew's birthday then and would prefer to stay at the Club site across the road from him this one time.


Well, that makes sense, you'll just have to grit your teeth when you come to pay! You could keep checking the website on a regular basis, I've done that before now when we've wanted a particular site (in the off-peak season when prices aren't eye-watering!). I've always found space eventually.


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Just checked and Burford now has availability for those dates, so booked quickly! Wierd or what? Now OH can have a drink at the bbq.

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Quote: Originally posted by Ratherbeinapplecros on 04/3/2021
I suppose the other difference with a caravan or motorhome is you have hot water on tap which makes hygiene much easier to keep to the standard needed just now. Again not as easy in a tent if no site facilities open.
I know it can be done with a pot or kettle but is everyone likely to do this as often as they should?



I think I would much sooner boil a kettle in my tent for hot water or even use hand gel rather than share a public sink that others may have washed their hands in or spat in after cleaning their teeth. There is no way I would use any public facilities at this time, open or not.

One doesn't have to lower one's hygiene standards just because one is in one's tent, does one?



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