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via mobile 29/3/2024 at 11:03am
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Recently charged .64 per KW for electric on a Caravan Club CL . Is this in order?


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29/3/2024 at 4:41pm
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Difficult to answer that with certainty, would need to know the details of the supplier and the terms of contract that the site is bound by.

Camp sites will be charging commercial rates, as will be their supply contract, not domestic rates, so your home electricity costs are of no use as a comparison.

It could be genuine based on recent past rates, but looking a bit too high for current rates which have fallen dramatically over past year or so.

Resellers (the camp site) are not allowed by law to inflate the price to end user (you) over the rate they pay! .... but they may be tied into a contract at a high rate, rather than paying 'todays' much lower market price. Then again they may either accidentally (oversight) be continuing to charge a now obsolete rate, or deliberately being naughty and profiteering! Only sight of their current supplier contract would tell you that.

For an insight into how rates have changed significantly and current rates, here's a useful website:http:// https://www.aquaswitch.co.uk/business-electricity-prices/

I've yet to use a camp site with metered electricity, so have no personal experience to compare rates with, others certainly have though, and they may be able to shed more light.


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A few days ago, I was looking at possible sites for us to visit this year. Came across what looked an interesting one, then saw the site fees.
Grass, non electric 20pn Grass with electric 30 pn.

Needless to say, we will not be going there.


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we paid 1 last year on a site which we are returning to in May and have been advised this year is the same


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We have been looking at seasonal pitches over the past few months and they almost all have metered electric. Most seem to be around the 36p /kWh price range but there are a few more expensive ones. A couple state that the current price is x but will be coming down when their contract ends on a certain date. It sounds to me like that site is on a fixed term deal at the minute, which is why their prices are higher.

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30/3/2024 at 1:57pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Ancient Uncle on 29/3/2024
A few days ago, I was looking at possible sites for us to visit this year. Came across what looked an interesting one, then saw the site fees.
Grass, non electric 20pn Grass with electric 30 pn.

Needless to say, we will not be going there.



Nor would we, talk about extortion! 10 a night for electricity, we don't use anywhere near that at home in mid-winter, including gas central heating in a 3 bedroom house. The last time we went on a site with metered electricity was in July 2019 and we paid 20p a night. I know electricity prices have gone up quite a bit since then, but not that much!

If we go on a site where electricity is included un-metered, we go by the total all inclusive price. If its more than 25 a night we go somewhere else.


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30/3/2024 at 3:08pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Ancient Uncle on 29/3/2024
A few days ago, I was looking at possible sites for us to visit this year. Came across what looked an interesting one, then saw the site fees.
Grass, non electric 20pn Grass with electric 30 pn.

Needless to say, we will not be going there.



10/night!!!! That rate is more than it costs to power my entire all electric (storage heaters!) 3 bed semi-detached house without much insulation through the winter months!!!!

Not sure if it's even possible to use that much power in a caravan or MH!

Not for me either, don't like being robbed!


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30/3/2024 at 10:18pm
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Personally I think even 3 a night for electricity in a caravan is a rip-off, but if the site fee was 12 a night with no electric and 22 a night with EHU, I'd accept that if I liked the site. If a site doesn't have metered electricity I go by the total price. I much prefer metered electricity though.

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My point was just the .64 tarif Cannot see any compsny charging that We love the site and only used fridge kettle toaster hairdryer but still 5.50 a night Thank God we didnt use heat. We can manage nicely on gas and our solar panel I have struggled to empty s 6 kg calor after heating and cooking for 6 nights as well as several bbqs Was wanting to renew it before my trip to France and have a kilo and a half left


31/3/2024 at 12:54pm
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Quite a reversal of costs from not so long ago, EHU was always significantly cheaper than gas per kWh on the typical size Calor/Flogas cylinder in a caravan/MH! At that site's rates, a Calor 6Kg at circa 30 per refill works out at around 0.36 per kWh, so just over half the cost!

You really do have to have your wits about you and a calculator to hand not to be robbed these days!

If the site signed up for a long term electric supply contract in the last quarter of 2022, then that, and even worse in the peaks, was the going rate then. It's fallen to around a third of that currently, so it does look very expensive in today's market.


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Unfortunately the cost of electric use in a caravan seems to vastly exceed normal home usage. We have been monitoring usage over the last year after having to unfortunately lock in a contract at a high rate. We were suprised at the amount used by a caravan! Due to cold weather in March last year and what we can presume was a lot of heater use, a couple of days averaged 30 usage per pitch just for one day/night! Luckily not all days were so extreme. Our electric is included and not metered.


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26/4/2024 at 8:51am
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Quote: Originally posted by HomesteadLakePark on 25/4/2024
Unfortunately the cost of electric use in a caravan seems to vastly exceed normal home usage. We have been monitoring usage over the last year after having to unfortunately lock in a contract at a high rate. We were suprised at the amount used by a caravan! Due to cold weather in March last year and what we can presume was a lot of heater use, a couple of days averaged 30 usage per pitch just for one day/night! Luckily not all days were so extreme. Our electric is included and not metered.



Are you referring to a static caravan or a touring caravan? Just about impossible for any recently built caravan to use 30 a day.


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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 26/4/2024
Quote: Originally posted by HomesteadLakePark on 25/4/2024
Unfortunately the cost of electric use in a caravan seems to vastly exceed normal home usage. We have been monitoring usage over the last year after having to unfortunately lock in a contract at a high rate. We were suprised at the amount used by a caravan! Due to cold weather in March last year and what we can presume was a lot of heater use, a couple of days averaged 30 usage per pitch just for one day/night! Luckily not all days were so extreme. Our electric is included and not metered.



Are you referring to a static caravan or a touring caravan? Just about impossible for any recently built caravan to use 30 a day.



Got to agree with Ian, seems highly unlikely anyone could reasonably use around 47kWh per day at the OP's 0.64/unit cost, or more like 65kWh per day at todays much lower more common unit cost, with a touring caravan/MH.

Caravan equipment is built with modest demand in mind as intended to be powered by a limited EHU source of UP TO 16A TOTAL, but often less as 10A EHU not that uncommon even in UK. Caravans are reasonably well insulated, and even the largest is not a huge space to heat, so heating will NOT be running flat out all the time! The total demand from a caravan can ONLY be slightly more than can be run from a SINGLE 13A socket in a domestic premises! - and most 13A sockets in caravans are in fact limited to a 10A load by the single MCB protecting ALL sockets available, so additional heating over and above the fitted system is handicapped!

Only way I could see demand reaching that level would be with a high powered domestic type heater in an awning, and running near flat out continuously! - and most camp sites SPECIFICALLY ban such heating! ... Or maybe re-charging of an EV!

It could be the accumulative pricing structure of your pitches (which quickly totals to really quite expensive!) brings about the 'I'm paying dearly for it, I'll bloody well use it' mentality in your customers! Even the most reasonably of us tend to err towards that frame of mind if we feel value for money is in question, and I'm mindful of waste and global impact! But you'd have to put you're mind to using that much power!

I've just visited elderly friends with health issues meaning they need a warm environment, who are staying in their far from new touring caravan at a site not too far from me, they get 10kWh usage per day bundled in with their pitch fees (over that is charged at 0.46/kWh), and even with overnight temperatures down to low single figures and daytime just nudging into double figures in past few days, they are not even reaching anything like their bundled power allocation, let alone exceeding it! ... and much of their daily cooking is also done on electric hotplates/griddles!

If you're claiming 30 per day usage, I feel that bears further investigation into HOW the devil are they managing it!


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Must admit we don't use our caravan in the colder months, it is usually tucked up for winter between October and May. Being an older caravan it is probably not as well insulated as a modern one, but even using our 1kw convector heater on chilly nights I doubt whether we would manage to use 3 a night, never mind 30 a night! Without the heater I doubt we'd use 1 a night.

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Stayed at a site recently with metered electric.
I think it was 24p/kwh (can't find the paperwork with the prices on now) and we used 1.44 worth overnight. The owner read the meter at the start and end of our stay and we paid for exactly what we used (no pre-payment cards etc).
We were slightly more frugal with our usage than we would have been had it been a set price but we still had the fridge/heating and hot water on EHU as well as charging phones/lighting etc.


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An update stayed on the same site where we paid 11 electric for the 2 nights previously Used gas wherever possible and only used 2 kw ie less than 1.40



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