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Message posted by Caligula16/1/2022 at 12:27pm
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Hello, seeking advice on bivvies from those that use or have used them.
Types? Hooped or unstructured? End access or side access? Sizes?

Many thanks in anticipation............

Message posted by spiritburner17/1/2022 at 1:05am
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Having used a variety my preference is for unpoled, end access bivvy with a small tarp.

Message posted by Caligula17/1/2022 at 11:29am
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Thank you for your response. Many do indeed go this route, but I keep feeling that that negates the minimalist approach as it might be, for if I take a tarp, why not make a tarp tent, and leave the bivvy bag at home?

I don't know? Do you find end access a faff? What bag do you use/prefer?

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When I was in TA years ago we had a poncho. This was a ground sheet sized waterproof sheet which folded in half to form a poncho which was a waterproof jacket affair. It had a hood and sleeves and poppered down the sides to form the jacket.

To sleep we could unpopper it and make a small tent using sticks for poles and pegs. Two could bivvy together, one making the tent and the other the ground sheet.

Alternatively it could be poppered into a long tube which we could slide into and sleep that way. Very quick and warm.

These ponchos are still available from army/navy type stores.

Message posted by Caligula17/1/2022 at 8:18pm
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Quote: Originally posted by navver on 17/1/2022
When I was in TA years ago we had a poncho. This was a ground sheet sized waterproof sheet which folded in half to form a poncho which was a waterproof jacket affair. It had a hood and sleeves and poppered down the sides to form the jacket.

To sleep we could unpopper it and make a small tent using sticks for poles and pegs. Two could bivvy together, one making the tent and the other the ground sheet.

Alternatively it could be poppered into a long tube which we could slide into and sleep that way. Very quick and warm.

hese ponchos are still available from army/navy type stores.

Thank you. I do indeed sometimes use a Polish Lavvu myself, but my question pertained to others experience and/or advice concerning bivvy bags?

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I have a Dutch army bivvy bag. Similar to the UK army one but a centre entry to pair with a military sleeping bag. It has a mat sleeve for a karrimat. I have only used it under a tarp and won't again as I am getting too fragile for sleeping on karrimat.
We did use to bivvy when I was in my twenties using ex army bivvy bags. You will get damp from condensation. You will roll off your mat if it doesn't have a mat sleeve. Your gear will need to be waterproof as it won't be in with you and you will feel like a sausage. You will probably be rained on and feel claustrophobic but you will be warm.

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I had a "Peapod" one person tent in the late 70s. They were light and water tight with just enough room to cook 'laying cdown' in the entrance. Not sure if they are still around, I used mine in all seasons.
I seem to remember something written about them in this forum a while back.

Message posted by Caligula18/1/2022 at 9:21am
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Ooops, my earlier reply disappeared into the ether!

But thank you Ewen for your experiences. I do have (or did, I have moved them on) the older goretex surplus unsupported top entry bags, but yes they didn't breathe well....Too bulky as well......
I have since bought an Alpkit Hunka XL, very compact and supposed to breathe well or better (summer use only).....but I remain unconvinced with top loading? Why not fit a side waterproof zip?
So, my thoughts are moving towards a hooped bag, such as Alpkit Elan (a little small/short?) or Snugpaks version (a little bigger?) both with side access zips.........

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I also have a wee eureka solitaire which is basically a bivvy tent. End or top entry and it fitted me and my rucksack.

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Message posted by spiritburner18/1/2022 at 6:48pm
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I use bivvy's for bikepacking more than backpacking. For winter backpacking on open mountainsides (as opposed to woodland) I don't really find bivvies practical. I only have one bivvy bag, an old Goretex Phoenix Phalklander which weighs 660 grams - top entry. In the picture above I'm using an Alpkit Rig 3.5 tarp at 300g & a PHD drilite sleeping bag cover at 170g. Bag is a PHD Miinum 350 with full side zip at 765g. The drilite cover is not really a bivvy bag as seams aren't sealed & top isn't fully closable.

My one person tents aren't hugely heavy at 950g & 1360g. The heavier one uses trekking poles to support the front & is a proper limpet in wind. The lighter one has it's on pole & is a cuben fibre version of the old Phoenix Phreeranger. I much prefer tents to bivvies in winter.

Message posted by Caligula19/1/2022 at 1:11pm
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Thank you

Message posted by Caligula02/2/2022 at 4:09pm
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Having decided that I didn't get on with top loader designs (Alpkit Hunka XL), I have settled on a Snugpak Stratosphere hooped bivvi, which has a side zip and is a little bigger than Alpkit's Elan hooped bivvi.
Not a lot of room for turning over, but for a (hopefully dry) summer stealth camp, it could be quite acceptable?

I could use a tarp as well, as a dressing area, but that seems to defeat the object? Hence dry summer target usage.......of course that thinking could all change in due course!

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