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Message posted by 3narf on 18/4/2018 at 4:08pm
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Hi

We always struggle to get a good night's sleep, as stiff 50-somethings. The only time we ever did was when we had a camper van- we'd put the foam bed cushions down in the tent and it was great. But we don't have the room to take upholstery foam with us these days!

Inflatable beds are awful, as are useless self-inflating mats (unimpressed). The only thing we haven't tried is a canvas and metal folding bed, maybe with the inflatable mattress on top.

I know I have asked this before, but it was a while back, so...what does everyone use?

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Opinions seem much the same, 3narf:

Campbed plus an approx 7cm to 10cm SIM for the best night's sleep, or a high end, 10cm or even fatter SIM straight onto the floor if space is tight.
Airbeds if space is really tight and you're willing to risk it dying on you.

The last year or so have seen some people replace a traditional campbed with Decathlon's inflatable version link with a SIM on top. There are a few threads on here about it and they seem to be quite a hit.

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I could not get a good sleep in a tent. Always get a good sleep in caravan or camper van

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I have back problems, slipped disc compressing nerve, but found the aerobed great. The internal structure acts like a sprung mattress. Also we used an electric blanket left on low all night so maybe the gentle warmth also helped.

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I find a skin full before lights out helps with sleeping in a tent.

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Don't know what type of SIM you tried before but I have had an Exped Megamat for 5 years and love it. I think many people put too much air in SIMs. I make sure that when I sit on it my bum just touches the floor. Then when I lay down and spread my weight it is just right.

I know buying an Exped unseen is a risk, I took it (in fact I bought two) and it was money well spent

There are several other SIMs like it available now from both Outwell and Vango that you can probably find and try in a good camping shop


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Its many years now since we last tent camped, but we found the best camp beds were the army type camp beds with the sissor cross type legs. We used to top them with some cheap foam block bought from the local Dunhelm store, each piece was about 60cm by 100cm, by 10cm deep, and that was long enough to give comfort under the shoulders and hips, a pillow at the top and the thickness of a decent sleeping bag at the feet and it was well comfy.

The foam block fitted neatly ontop of the trailer under the waterproof cover, held on with bungee cord, or on the rear parcel shelf of the car with a bit of a squish.

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For back packing hiking I use a prolite regular self inflating mat. Its very light, compresses down small. It does not self inflate very much and needs a good 3 puffs from mouth to make firm. Its not very insulative but takes pressure off hips shoulders.

For glamping we use a double raised aerobed this does self inflate in about 90 seconds. Just plug on pump and give 1/4 turn to start. The pump is good for 3 inflations then needs recharging. A 3 metre 12v cable to car lighter socket is supplied if battery runs out. As pump batteries are NiCad it is important to fully charge for 24hrs before first use 12hrs thereafter and to ensure batteries are completely discharged before recharging.
It has a flocked top surface so can use a sheet without it slipping off. This is luxuriously comfortable, made with heavy duty PVC It weighs about 20 pounds. It is deep and keeps you over a foot or so off the ground. If you care about the colour its a horrible biege grey but you will probably cover it with a sheet duvet anyway. It is quite pricey at 120.
We managed to get one in a winter sale for 79.00.
I think its money well spent (the price of one night B&B) have used it for around 30 nights with no problems.






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Have seen some 'kayak-like' Decathlon airbed linky see this you tube video. It needs a SIM on top, which reading what you have said you already have.

We have air beds, so no personal recommendations.

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Quote: Originally posted by Frazzle- on 18/5/2018
Have seen some 'kayak-like' Decathlon airbed linky see this you tube video. It needs a SIM on top, which reading what you have said you already have.

We have air beds, so no personal recommendations.



This is what we use.Best sleep ever.


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Quote: Originally posted by Frazzle- on 18/5/2018
Have seen some 'kayak-like' Decathlon airbed linky see this you tube video. It needs a SIM on top, which reading what you have said you already have.

We have air beds, so no personal recommendations.



This is what we use.Best sleep ever.




I have seen pictures of those before and thought they looked quite good but having seen the video I am a little bemused as to what the difference is between that and an ordinary airbed.

It has to be pumped up like an airbed and could leak or slightly deflate with the cold like an airbed and then you have to put another inflatable mattress on top. You might as well just have an airbed.

I have recently gone back to an ordinary high rise airbed with an integral pump having used a camp bed with a sim on top for some years. It pumps up in less than 3 minutes...job done...and wider and more comfortable than a camp bed. No secondary mattress required and so far at least, no leaks or serious deflation.

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It is probably best described as a bed base that you then put your mattress of choice on.
It pumps up to 6psi which an airbed doesn't. The slats are like a bed and you don't get roll together or that floaty airbed feeling. It doesn't deflate and, unlike an airbed, it is guaranteed for 10 years.

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How thick was your self inflating mattress? In my opinion the thicker ones are great!

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I see...an inflatable camp bed then

I suppose little different to a camp bed with a sim on top, but sits on air instead of legs. I am not sure I am convinced but one of the reasons I went back to an airbed was that I discovered I was not getting a good night's sleep on a narrow camp bed and kept knocking my knees on the side bars despite having a sim on top. I guess the Decathlon doesn't have sidebars but may well still be too narrow for me (and I'm not a big chap).

The benefit of the airbed I have now is that it is quite wide and has an integral pump which if left plugged in (or within easy reach of a socket) takes seconds to adjust the pressure according to the air temperature...unlike previous airbeds I have had which seemed to lose a lot of air and then you have to plug a pump into the airbed then plug the pump into the socket and the pump often lost more air than it was pumping in

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Hello Ewen, I think it is known as a divan as it has space in the middle for storage!! I love the idea but then we would have to buy SIMs to go on top too - so makes it very expensive.

Yes Bob, an inflatable camp bed so an airbed. I think someone must have had fun with a large inflatable tyre ( rubber ring for pool fun) and came up with this idea.

Bob is your extra tall but posh airbed warmer than normal? Is it better for those with bad backs? Do you still have the bounce factor when one adult gets on the other bounces off as we have in our airbed? (I know that you do not camp with Mrs Bob but some people use their camp beds at home too as a spare). What dimensions are this bed, please?


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