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Message posted by Val A on 09/10/2012 at 10:37am
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The Caravan Club acquires Alan Rogers Travel Group

Published: 09 October 2012

The Club is delighted to announce it has acquired the Alan Rogers Travel Group, allowing it to enhance its already renowned Overseas Travel Service.

The Alan Rogers Travel Group is a market leader: it publishes Alan Rogers Guides, provides extensive campsite information, sells sites and ferry crossings and is the exclusive UK agent for Camping Cheques. It also owns Belle France, a specialist French tour operator, and a digital media company.

This acquisition will enable The Club to add the extensive range of travel products, expertise and service offered by The Alan Rogers Travel Group to its Overseas Travel Service. Please be assured this news will not have an impact on members' existing overseas bookings.

Nick Lomas, Director General of The Caravan Club, said, "Club staff will be working with the team at Alan Rogers Travel Group to make products available to members and further details will follow shortly."


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Is the latest Camping Cheque ferry Offer (115 + 3 cheques), safe for next year?

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OH and I have just had a very similar discussion!

Well, who knows - best book it quickly, methinks. Usually we wait for the NEC offers, but with this latest news, I think we're going to book this offer whilst it still stands!  At 99.00 minus 42 for the Camping Cheques, leaving 57.00 as the ferry element, it still represents a very good deal for us, especially as it includes a First Class upgrade - and according to another poster, has more flexible amendment terms than DFDS themselves!


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Full details already published here:

The CC purchase Alan Rogers Travel Group

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I am going to hang on...the flyer does say "Book by 12 November to qualify" for their bonus offer. I am assuming they must honour that.

I am at NEC on 18th so hope to be in a position to make the choice, if the traditional offer is made.

The thought of paying more money has made me go all faint!

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We're at the show on the 19th Stuart - sorry we'll miss you!

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This is bad news :( Are the Caravan club seeking world domination? There will be no competition left soon. Its bad enough that they seem to want to buy every campsite in the uk.

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Quote: Originally posted by bats on 09/10/2012
This is bad news :( Are the Caravan club seeking world domination? There will be no competition left soon. Its bad enough that they seem to want to buy every campsite in the uk.
It's about time the CC reviewed their internet access policy at sites.  Extortion - we refuse to pay.  Loads of places are free and moreso in France.


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As Alan Rogers is a part of the Mark Hammerton Travel group are we to presume that they have taken over the whole organisation.  If so, then it's interesting reading the Milestones on the Mark Hammerton website - Mark Hammerton Travel are apparently minority stakeholders in Camping Cheques and the Kawan group?

I always thought the Caravan Club was a club for members - is it, like the RAC and AA, now just run by some venture capitalists??


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Quote: Originally posted by Val A on 09/10/2012

I always thought the Caravan Club was a club for members - is it, like the RAC and AA, now just run by some venture capitalists??


Lookin' that way. Credit Cards, Insurance, etc. Getting like Saga - a travel agent in disguise.  And the sites ain't cheap - for a (supposed) mutual orgainisation and "not for profit" banner, the site fees are getting out of the price band of caravanners.  The standards are good but a French site with loads of beautiful facilities and indoor/outdoor pools, free internet etc at this time of year are half the price or less of the CC site prices.  I think they need a reality check.  Of course none of us ever go to the AGM so we can't complain.  I think if there were protest threads on their website they would be removed!  There's something about the CC website I can't find myself liking.

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Quote: Originally posted by Val A on 09/10/2012

As Alan Rogers is a part of the Mark Hammerton Travel group are we to presume that they have taken over the whole organisation.  If so, then it's interesting reading the Milestones on the Mark Hammerton website - Mark Hammerton Travel are apparently minority stakeholders in Camping Cheques and the Kawan group?

I always thought the Caravan Club was a club for members - is it, like the RAC and AA, now just run by some venture capitalists??


Val

According to Ratty's link the Club have purchased Mark Hammerton Travel which includes Alan Rogers if I understand it correctly.

David


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Quote: Originally posted by bats on 09/10/2012


This is bad news :( Are the Caravan club seeking world domination? There will be no competition left soon. Its bad enough that they seem to want to buy every campsite in the uk.

I'm not sure it is bad news. The Club have probably done this to protect the the interest of members and being able to offer a way of booking sites abroad which perhaps on their own they were not big enough to do. Obviously all this has happened just in time for the NEC show!!!!

From a members point of view they would have their full backing by trying to buy every campsite in the UK

David



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Quote: Originally posted by oxter on 09/10/2012
  I think if there were protest threads on their website they would be removed!  There's something about the CC website I can't find myself liking.

Most certainly not the case. Magazine maybe!

David


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Quote: Originally posted by oxter on 09/10/2012
  I think if there were protest threads on their website they would be removed!  There's something about the CC website I can't find myself liking.

Most certainly not the case. Magazine maybe!

David


OK Thanks David - there's no sense in moaning here then, I'll have a go at them on their own website but I've no doubt there will be Quisling contributers who will leap to the defence of the Club's pricing policy.  Probably some fat cat staff members or the types who write letters to the magazine complaining about the folks on the next pitch and their dog/kids/tv/etc.


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Quote: Originally posted by David Klyne on 09/10/2012

Quote: Originally posted by bats on 09/10/2012


This is bad news :( Are the Caravan club seeking world domination? There will be no competition left soon. Its bad enough that they seem to want to buy every campsite in the uk.

I'm not sure it is bad news. The Club have probably done this to protect the the interest of members and being able to offer a way of booking sites abroad which perhaps on their own they were not big enough to do. Obviously all this has happened just in time for the NEC show!!!!

From a members point of view they would have their full backing by trying to buy every campsite in the UK

David






What ever happened to a bit of fair competition? This take over will only result in "price fixing" across the board....the only way forward and the cheapest option is to contact the sites abroad directly and cut out the "middle man". I also know of one site in particular that is now a lot worse off under caravan club rule than it was before it was taken over.

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Bats

I was referring to your comments about the UK. Both Clubs added together only control a tiny percentage of the total number of campsites in the UK and by recent experience they hardly add more than one or two sites a year through buying them outright so I think we have a long way to go before you need fear the worst!

With regards the overseas touring I agree than many of us that already know the ropes will do our own thing. However it is really surprising how many CC members are happier to book via the Club and I suppose this is what they want to build on. Dosen't always pay to book direct. I was talking to a couple in the Dordogne who paid 33.50 a night where as I was using Camping Cheques so I paid 15, they were quite shocked when I told them!

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