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Message posted by birdysbird on 26/4/2019 at 10:45pm via mobile
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Hi all,

This is my first post! My husband and I have decided that we would like to purchase our 1st tourer. We have been looking for about 3 mths and decided we like the layout with the end bathroom and side dinette. Been to a few 2nd hand dealers, seen a few we like but none that we really really like. We have seen a tourer that we really really like on facebook marketplace and have arranged to go view it on Sunday. Now i am in panic mode as we are not sure on how to inspect them. Has anybody bought their first caravan this way or would we be better keep.looking at a dealers. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Hi. Iím really new too. Bought my tourer from eBay and got a fabulous deal. I did a CRIS check on it before I went and I took a damp metre with me but other than that I think I was very lucky.

There will no doubt be some far more experienced people along soon to advise you 😊

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Quote: Originally posted by birdysbird on 26/4/2019
Hi all,

This is my first post! My husband and I have decided that we would like to purchase our 1st tourer. We have been looking for about 3 mths and decided we like the layout with the end bathroom and side dinette. Been to a few 2nd hand dealers, seen a few we like but none that we really really like. We have seen a tourer that we really really like on facebook marketplace and have arranged to go view it on Sunday. Now i am in panic mode as we are not sure on how to inspect them. Has anybody bought their first caravan this way or would we be better keep.looking at a dealers. Any advice would be appreciated.



First thing. Buy yourself a damp meter and check for damp.

That's how we bought our first caravan and it worked out well.

Damp is what what kills them in the end.

The layout you describe has been about for years.
I am a fan of the coachman vans so that would be the 520.

Don't let your heart rule your head.

Has it been serviced recently?
What parts have been replaced?
Why are they selling?
Just be careful, and ask questions, and listen carefully to the answers.


Good luck. let us know how you get on.

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Many people advise to check for damp which is absolutely right because it's your greatest enemy but there's a lot more to check besides that. For instance, the fridge plays an important role when living in the caravan so you need to check that it's working off the mains, on gas and also works on 12 volts when connected to the towing vehicle. It's a 3 way fridge so you need to check that all 3 ways are functioning. If they're not then it's a hefty bill to replace it as even second hand you can expect to pay £500 and quite often obsolete if the caravan is over 10 years of age. Also you need a voltmeter to check that the 12 volt charge is functioning when hooked up to the towcar and also the onboard battery charger is functioning efficiently when connected up to the mains. Again, if it's duff, expect to pay out £100 or more for a new one plus the cost of the installation. Tyres should also be checked for age, any signs of cracking and if they are near 5 years old or more they will need replacing. The water pump needs to be connected up and ensure that all taps are working including the shower and that water flows as normal. If the toilet is a 12 volt electric type you need to make sure that it is flushing and that the pump hasn't siezed. Make sure that all roof vents open and close including the big Heki skylight and that all the windows open okay. If they haven't been opened for a long time then you need to check each window for delamination because a replacement can not only be hard to source but also very expensive. The list goes on but having said all that, even though you can pre-test for damp, buying second hand can be a huge gamble only to find out on site that something doesn't work as you are unlikely to get a full refund. On the other hand, buying from a dealer, the customer usually gets a warranty period which gives you time to try everything out and if anything is found to be faulty can be reported back and rectified respectively.
However, when I purchased my first caravan 14 years ago I got caught out merely because I was a novice and knew very little with a lot of unanswered questions so I visited a local caravan accessory shop and bought the 'Caravan Handbook' by John Wickersham which was the best decision I ever made. Having all the literature at hand from buying a caravan, awnings, water, gas and just about everything else you need to know about caravanning it's the best thing a novice can have and the cost of a book can save a lot of pounds in the future if you know what to look for when buying a used caravan.
I'm also a Coachman fan as we're now on our third one.   





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The Caravan Manual is available from Haynes or you should be able to find second-hand earlier editions, or try your local library (assuming you still have one!).

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Hi, do you have any friends/family who are experienced caravanners who could go with you? Or find a mobile engineer who for a relatively small fee would check it over with you? https://www.approvedworkshops.co.uk/find-approved-workshop
Good luck in your search and keep us up to date with your progress.

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Thank you so much everybody for all your replies, really appreciate them.

Tango, a huge thank you to you for your detail explaination on what to look for and what questions to ask. It's very valuble and will help us heaps when viewing on Sunday. I will also see if i can pick up a damp tester and im definitely going to buy the manual, both will be good investments.

The caravan we are going to view is an Abbey Vogue gts 417 2005. We are just started out so don't want to purchase from new plus our budget won't allow. Will.let you all know how we get in.

Kind regards
Julie

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If you like it after first inspection then go back with a caravan engineers. There are lots who will give it the once over for a reasonable fee.

They may still miss something but far less likely

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I have both books, the 'Caravan Manual' and the 'Caravan Handbook' (first edition) by John Wickersham but the manual is a hard cover book which is all about DIY repairs and nothing else so not to get confused with the two. The 'Caravan Handbook' is a paperback book and covers all the basics which is the one you need. I think that the 'Caravan Handbook' second edition is for later model caravans.

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Is there a mobile caravan engineer you can contact?.

We took along one, at a cost of £80, to look at a secondhand van.

It looked wonderful and the owner was waxing lyrical about its condition.

Our engineer found damp, defective electrics, dangerous tyres and a cracks in the A-frame.

Without his help we would have bought. The best £80 we have ever spent

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2019 ditto (hopefully)

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Uncle just had his serviced with a local caravan engineer that we both use he informed us he does caravan check for new to you caravan for £75, this fee is then knocked off the service price when he does the service in the van he charged £160 for single axle vans
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I see some good advice already offered to you. I have repaired many damp and damage caravans and have bought and sold caravans as a living in my younger days. My advice would be buyer beware don't assume the seller is correct. Ask to see proof of outright ownership HP clear year of manufacture and any service history. Look for damp check internaly in corners and cupboards look for discolouration use a damp meter and your nose. If in doubt walk away. Look at everything dinks dents wear and tear has it been loved or abused. Check the tyre not just the tread but the side of the tyre for cracking. Tyres should be changed at 5 years. Check the price is right sometimes a dealer trade in can be cheaper than a private purchase.    

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Before you buy you need to establish how heavy a caravan your car can tow and also what your licence allows you to tow.

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Evening all,

the caravan we had arranged to view tomorrow has been sold today :( couldn't go today as was working 9-6.

We are still looking as we definitely still want to buy one.

The advice on here has been amazing and has helped us so much, i thank you all for taking the time to leave a message. When we do find another one we like, we are going to look into getting somebody to check it over for us, i think that's an excellent idea and would be our best option for our first caravan.

Thanks Navver, we have checked on log book the max weight which is 1500 and my husband passed before 1997 and he also has his class 1 licence so he should be ok. I on the other hand didn't pass my test til 2000 so not so sure that is something i will have to look into more, but im happy to leave to driving to the other half :)

thank you everybody
Julie

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Quote: Originally posted by tango55 on 26/4/2019
Many people advise to check for damp which is absolutely right because it's your greatest enemy but there's a lot more to check besides that. For instance, the fridge plays an important role when living in the caravan so you need to check that it's working off the mains, on gas and also works on 12 volts when connected to the towing vehicle. It's a 3 way fridge so you need to check that all 3 ways are functioning. If they're not then it's a hefty bill to replace it as even second hand you can expect to pay £500 and quite often obsolete if the caravan is over 10 years of age. Also you need a voltmeter to check that the 12 volt charge is functioning when hooked up to the towcar and also the onboard battery charger is functioning efficiently when connected up to the mains. Again, if it's duff, expect to pay out £100 or more for a new one plus the cost of the installation. Tyres should also be checked for age, any signs of cracking and if they are near 5 years old or more they will need replacing. The water pump needs to be connected up and ensure that all taps are working including the shower and that water flows as normal. If the toilet is a 12 volt electric type you need to make sure that it is flushing and that the pump hasn't siezed. Make sure that all roof vents open and close including the big Heki skylight and that all the windows open okay. If they haven't been opened for a long time then you need to check each window for delamination because a replacement can not only be hard to source but also very expensive. The list goes on but having said all that, even though you can pre-test for damp, buying second hand can be a huge gamble only to find out on site that something doesn't work as you are unlikely to get a full refund. On the other hand, buying from a dealer, the customer usually gets a warranty period which gives you time to try everything out and if anything is found to be faulty can be reported back and rectified respectively.
However, when I purchased my first caravan 14 years ago I got caught out merely because I was a novice and knew very little with a lot of unanswered questions so I visited a local caravan accessory shop and bought the 'Caravan Handbook' by John Wickersham which was the best decision I ever made. Having all the literature at hand from buying a caravan, awnings, water, gas and just about everything else you need to know about caravanning it's the best thing a novice can have and the cost of a book can save a lot of pounds in the future if you know what to look for when buying a used caravan.
I'm also a Coachman fan as we're now on our third one.   





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Sorry I just can't.

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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 28/4/2019
Quote: Originally posted by tango55 on 26/4/2019
Many people advise to check for damp which is absolutely right because it's your greatest enemy but there's a lot more to check besides that. For instance, the fridge plays an important role when living in the caravan so you need to check that it's working off the mains, on gas and also works on 12 volts when connected to the towing vehicle. It's a 3 way fridge so you need to check that all 3 ways are functioning. If they're not then it's a hefty bill to replace it as even second hand you can expect to pay £500 and quite often obsolete if the caravan is over 10 years of age. Also you need a voltmeter to check that the 12 volt charge is functioning when hooked up to the towcar and also the onboard battery charger is functioning efficiently when connected up to the mains. Again, if it's duff, expect to pay out £100 or more for a new one plus the cost of the installation. Tyres should also be checked for age, any signs of cracking and if they are near 5 years old or more they will need replacing. The water pump needs to be connected up and ensure that all taps are working including the shower and that water flows as normal. If the toilet is a 12 volt electric type you need to make sure that it is flushing and that the pump hasn't siezed. Make sure that all roof vents open and close including the big Heki skylight and that all the windows open okay. If they haven't been opened for a long time then you need to check each window for delamination because a replacement can not only be hard to source but also very expensive. The list goes on but having said all that, even though you can pre-test for damp, buying second hand can be a huge gamble only to find out on site that something doesn't work as you are unlikely to get a full refund. On the other hand, buying from a dealer, the customer usually gets a warranty period which gives you time to try everything out and if anything is found to be faulty can be reported back and rectified respectively.
However, when I purchased my first caravan 14 years ago I got caught out merely because I was a novice and knew very little with a lot of unanswered questions so I visited a local caravan accessory shop and bought the 'Caravan Handbook' by John Wickersham which was the best decision I ever made. Having all the literature at hand from buying a caravan, awnings, water, gas and just about everything else you need to know about caravanning it's the best thing a novice can have and the cost of a book can save a lot of pounds in the future if you know what to look for when buying a used caravan.
I'm also a Coachman fan as we're now on our third one.   





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Sorry I just can't.



Sorry you just can't what?
Offer any further advice to the OP because the majority of advice has already been covered above or would you rather be a bit more specific with your negative reply?





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