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17/8/2008 at 10:38am
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Quote: Originally posted by Liddenham on 08/3/2008
What does anyone reckon the the new Khyam (2008) SIGs? They are not polyethylene, as with many other manufacturers, but polyester, like the tent. I can understand this is to facilitate easy folding, since it needs to be quite light and flexible to be folded with the tent, especially as the frame stays affixed.
However, we have a dog, and I suspect her claws would potentially damage this fabric more than a polyethylene one, making a carpet obligatory for protection. Then, I reckon it is likely to get more stinky than a polyethylene one (I'm thinking wet dog here, plus spillages etc) and potentially harder to clean. What do others think?
hi liddenham,
i have quoted your full post as i agree with all of it!
we have subjected our khyam classic XL to a lot of wind and will probably have to replace it sooner rather than later (plus we damaged our annexe with a flying brolly )
I wouldn't mind too much, replacing the annexe if i could look forward to getting a new tent to go with it. A full SIG is really out of the question for us and besides i don't want one.
What is the point of a polyester sig ?? Will you have to step over it to get into the tent ?? I have enough trouble with the trippy over webbing!
I haven't seen another tent i like as much as ours and i hate to think i couldn't replace it.
I know designs move on and you can't be guaranteed to be able to buy your favourite model forever but this is just silly!
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17/8/2008 at 6:02pm
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Sonja.p - I agree that it is a real pain when makers change designs! Have all the Khyams gone SIG now?
I have changed my own mind about SIGs at various times through the years.
Started with a frame tent 25 years ago, then got a little dome tent when they first became available. Had a big family sized dome tent with SIG that was inner-first pitching and realised the disadvantages to that the first time we had to break camp in the rain and ended up with an indoor pool!
So we have mainly had outer-first, non-SIG tents. Our two most used tents are our Vango Quest 600 for long breaks and Vaude Opera for short breaks. Both are non SIG tunnel tents with alloy poles, good ventilation and they can withstand some heavy weather.
But then we decided on a tour of N Ireland for our main 2008 hol - the Quest is too big and takes a while to go up, the Opera is a bit cramped for all the kit of a longer hol. So I decided to try an Orchy 600.
We got the separate footprint GS with it and it turned out to be the right choice for the circumstances. The tent goes up really fast as it is all in one (ideal for touring) the full SIG kept out rain and mud that was sending other campers home, and the separate GS kept it all clean.
Next year, we are thinkinig about heading to the continent, and that sets me thinking about cotton canvas frame tents for warmer climes.....
So I don't think there is a definitive answer about SIG versus non-SIG tents for us. It really does depend on the needs of a particular situation.
Or maybe I just think that because it gives me an excuse to keep buying tents with different configurations??
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25/8/2008 at 2:53pm
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Hi
We went camping for the first time a few weeks ago in a Alpine 8 with a non SIG and to say it was disastrous would be an understatement!
The wind although light sucked all the warmth out of the tent and when it rained the mud flooded in!
We ended up packing up and booking into a hotel for the last night to dry off!
Since then we have sold the tent and purchased a Sunncamp Vairo 600+
Not been camping since but looking forward to going later this year!!
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25/8/2008 at 4:51pm
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i think that my preference for the Dorset slopes does have its advantages. Any rain that comes in just trickles straight out again!
We don't have EHU or any such mod cons so i don't expect the tent to be particularly warm inside. If i get cold i just snuggle up under my mega tog down duvet .
I imagine trying to heat a draughty tent would be counterproductive. It reminds me of huddling round the boiler in the nissan huts at school.
For me the secret of happy camping is plenty of warm clothes and plenty of ventilation to stop the damp. I hate damp.
Camping is all about getting away from stuffyness and being in the great outdoors
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