Oh no, please don't tell me I may have problems with this tent too!?
We had a nebraska xl and it leaked (quite badly) and we took it back and ended up getting a montana 12 instead (hubbies choice - I still like the nebraska better) but we haven't had time to test it yet and we're going away next weekend in it.
Please, please, please don't let this one be a problem too.
1. You can unpack the poles, connect them, and check they all are straight.
2. If you have space for it, you can unpack tent, check the corners stitching
3. Better get it up soon, check it out.
We hosed ours first, very carefully. Nothing happened. It was the night-rain that got it. My gues is that water seeps in through the stitching somwhow, so it is duration of exposure to water that determines leakage, not just the intensity of the water.
Funnily enough we had to return a 2007 SV8 and then a Vermont XL for leakages in exactly the same places, ie where there are extra seams for hanging bedrooms, cables, etc, as well as in a few other places. Fortunately we did not have any pole problems.
We want to get another Vermont but it's a bit worrying seeing other people having the same problems - we've had 3 SV8s and 1 Vermont since July last year.
Outwell tents are a fantastic design - the Vermont is so spacious and perfect for what our family wants and needs. If only they'd sort out these QA problems the tents would probably be unbeatable.
Come on Outwell, get sorted please !!!!!!!
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1. Leaking . and no, it is NOT condensation, we didnt sleep in it.
2.
Sorry to hear of your problems.
Unless you find a leak, it may still be condensation. There is water vapour in the air any way, wether the tent is empty or full. (more = higher humidity, less = lower humidity,) so as the temperature dropped, this could condense on the relatively cool tent material. (Which cools further if it's rained on, as the rain water is cooler than the ground level air.) Even after a night of no rain at all, you can find if you wipe your hand across the inner tent roof, you'll find it damp. I will evaporate again as the temperature increases, so it can look like a leak. If it's dripped or rolled into a puddle, it takes longer to evaporate again.
Good luck with the return though, it's not the only issue you've got with it.
But a 28 m2 tent, empty of people, all vent openings open. No sign of condensation on the inside - except the pools on the floor. And no the sun had not burned through the clouds yet -so tent was same temperature inside as outside air.
So I doubt condensation - but yes, could in theory be.
But how do I ever test for leaks - unless I am inside the tent in heavy rain, that lasts more than 30 minutes or so (guess it takes a while before seeping throu the seams begins to do its work).
Some good pics, get your point across well, we to have had issues with Outwell but the water didn't look to bad.
I appreciate that as its a new bought tent it would be nice to think it would be water tight but I don't think in such a large tent I'd be unduly worried by that amount of water.
Hope you have better luck with your replacement if/when you get it.
We have used our 2007 sv8 times this year, twice in windy and very wet weather with no leaks, bent poles, condensation, we are extremely happy with the versitile uses this wonderful tent has.We hope to get a lot more of happy hols with our sv8,part of our family now!!!!
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at File28: We ar ealso looking forward to do such a post- and hope that eventually we get lucky in the Outwell lottery and get a good tent.
But so far - it has been 100% failure-rate from Outwell - and we hope that we wont have to go throu too many replacements - as it takes time to pitch it, water it, check it, dry it, pack it etc. - and that is time that we do not get compensated....
Quote: Originally posted by jensjakob on 16/9/2007
at Paul Lynn:
Please explain the bit about the size of the tent and the amoint of water?
We expect the tent to be watertight. I mean,it was about 1,5 mm of rain over 3 hours of the night/morning.
How much water would leak if it was a proper rain-storm?
On the other side - we dont want to be just arguing...
And then again , besides leaks, there are the poles, as well as the stiching of the corner.
But back to the leaks - a new tent should not leak - should not....
Best regards
Jens Jakob
Personally I'd never consider a tent water tight, even bricks and mortar can spring a leak, but I'd always hope and pray it was.
Its a big tent so catches a lot of rain, its hard to get them drum tight, there are places where water gathers and maybe this will seep through.
As I said its fair enough that you would expect none but with the amount of stitching on a tent the size of a Monty 12 I would've thought there may be a good chance of a seam leaking, if I remember correctly the only tent we have bought that included seam sealer in the packaging was a Monty 4, I think that fact speaks for itself.
Trust me I'm not arguing, have had 5 tents from Outwell, had problems and returned 3 of them, it hasn't put us off the brand but as others have said, it would appear to be pot luck whether you get a good un or a duff un.
Hi we share the same experience with you, we have had 2 nebraska xl's and a vermont L and they have all leaked and had bad stitching on them. and ours was not condensation either, you could sit there and watch it dripping from the seams on all 3 tents.
It is appaling that the quality is so bad as they are fantastic tents design wise and space wise, but the quality is nowhere near what it should be.
We have been told to use our tent for our last camping trip and tehn send it back again and we will get the choice of the new 2008 models. Hopefully that will be the end of it. They need to do something as by the looks of things some of the 2008 range tents from the other manufactureres look really good.
Hope you get yours sorted Jens
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Tent got returned today - vendor looked at our list of "issues" and said immediately "Do you want a new one straight away?"
As I have talked with Outwell Denmark, I said "please ship it to Outwell".
We look forward to see what Outwell says, hopefully we get a new one.
And to Tar-paullynn , well, a large tent of a budget brand I would never worry about a bit of leaks from, but a HH5000 tent - well, if you brand a tent HH5000, then it carries some obligations.
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Topic: Outwell Montana 12 quality?
