I am spec'ing a new tent to replace my Khyam Freelander that was broken due to high winds recently, and thought about getting a canvas tent that can withstand the elements, like 2 weeks in the Scottish Highlands perhaps near the coast!
I had my heart set on a Cabanon, most likely to be the Guadeloupe, until someone mentioned Hypercamp's Rosas 4 or Eldorado which does not have a sig which are similar in design.
The difference in price between the Guadeloupe and Rosas 4/Eldorado is staggering, which got me thinking whether it is worth to pay so much more for a Cabanon tent.
Is it a case of if money if no object, get a Cabanon; and the wise and the smart monies would opt for a Hypercamp for good price/quality compromise?
I can get the Eldorado plus a suitable tarp in time for camping over Christmas. However, I would have to save up for the Guadeloupe and shan't be able to buy it until next year.
Your help and advice would be much appreciated, thanks in advance.
DK
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Cabanon's are great tent's, but there RRP is way over the top, I got my Cabanon brand new from Caterrick Caravans back in 2008, even at £699 I thought that was quite a lot of money to pay for a tent, the RRP at the time was £1,040!, no way would I have paid that.
Then in 2009 Cabanon had a huge price hike, and the RRP jumped to £1,335 and today the eqivelent Cabanon tent has an RRP of £1,449!
Quite amazing realy.
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What about Esvo tents, when compared with Cabanon and Hypercamp?
I read Angie's comment about Esvo and De Waard would last longer than Hypercamp, and got me thinking about Esvo.
So many choices!
DK
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Hi, glad you've chosen a pyramid for your next tent, no worries about the wind too much in one of these, don't the Dutch call them 'Storm tents'?
I have a Cabanon Barbados - big daddy to the Guadeloupe and a Hypercamp Djarkarta - little sister to the Eldorado, sadly discontinued now. Cabanons are ridiculously expensive new so keep your eye out for a used one, it's the right time of year to look. I agree with Angie, I don't think the huge Cabanon - Hypercamp price difference is worth paying but I do love my Barbie.
I would say the Hypercamp tent's stitching and finishing is no where near as good as my Cabanon tent, this is what I find most apparent quality-wise - perhaps I bought a Friday afternooner! I still love my Djarkarta - she has a lovely rear and great value for money.
The Djarkarta doesn't have a SIG so I don't know how thick the Hypercamp SIG would be on the Rosas, but there are lots of Rosas owners on here who will be along to answer that one. My Barbados SIG is really thick and of high quality so the Gaudeloupes will be the same.
Lastly, double check for size, I don't know how many people you want to accommodate. The drawback with a pyramid is the lack of usable space due to the slope of the roof, however, this is also why they perform so well in windy conditions
Good luck and let us know which one you go for.
De Waards although beautiful, can be faffy to pitch, I believe.
Ooo, I believe I might have found my tent - Hypercamp Escala 4!!!
It is similar in size to the Khyam Freeland with the canopy in place.
The front door I believe can be removed and relocated further back into the tent, which means the front can be used as a canopy and windbreak for cooking etc...
If I were to get the Eldorado, I would need to add a tarp in order to provide additional cover, and I would probably need to erect a windbreak.
An integrated front canopy is likely to be sturdier than an additional tarp.
Although the Escala is more expensive, it means (i) I do not need to purchase a canopy and (ii) I would not need to add a windbreak.
The Escala is looking more and more attractive the more I read into it!
DK
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- 2027: ? NL+DE+FR
- 2026: FR+DE
- 2025: 17/77
'24: 10/49; '23: 9/47;'22: 8/46; '21: 9/34
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* Treat life events like a dog: if you can't eat it, play with it or hump it, p1$$ on it and walk away!
The front is removable so you can have it with a canopy (perfect for cooking under) or put the removable front right at the front to double the living space.
The tent does have a sig but obviously when the front bit is at the front (this is sounding mental now lol) then there is a gap on the floor but the tent comes with an extra groundsheet to fit that gap :)
With regards to Esvo all I can say is WOOT WOOT... LOVE EM
Have to admit to being an Esvo groupie. Quality is up there with DW . Different canvas (ten cate), zips a tiny bit less on the chunky side (still way chunkier than other makes), great attention to detail, top quality rubber mudflaps/groundsheets/zigs and they age superbly :)
I would second Angie's recommendations for Esvo - our Salamander is beautifully made and is a real quality item. I am thinking of getting an Esvo Kansas as a second weekend tent, it seems to be about the perfect size for a short break and I think I could put it up myself I also like the look of the Escala but I think it might be a bit big to manage on my own ..... happy to be put right about that if anyone has any experience of putting one of them up single handedly...?!
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I had a look at the Esvo and DW sites to perv at their tents. Sadly, their prices are out of reach if I were to get a tent in time for camping this Christmas. Also, for the ones that caught my eyes, I would need to add a tarp/sun canopy/windbreak etc...
I really like the design of the Hypercamp Escala with is adjustable front wall and living space, without the need to add a sun canopy and/or windbreak.
Just waiting from Obelink to come back to me about a few queries that I have, most of which Angie has kindly answered. If the inner tent is one pod with a roll-up divider and not two separate pods, then I am sold!
As for putting it up on my own, I too would appreciate comments from anyone who has experience in putting a pyramid tent single-handedly.
From what I can gather, the likes of Cabanon's Guadeloupe can easily be put up by one person, therefore, in theory so should the Hypercamp Escala, as it is not that much heavier.
It would be interesting to see if the front wall can be taken off during erection, as this would lessen the weight of the canvas.
I shall ask Obelink about it.
DK
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- 2025: 17/77
'24: 10/49; '23: 9/47;'22: 8/46; '21: 9/34
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If you're worried about the weight of a larger-sized pyramid tent with a sig, then it might be worth looking for one without a sig. It would also save worries about rolling up a damp/muddy sig in the same bag as your precious canvas.
Funnily enough it looks like I will be selling my brand new last year Cabanon Pyramide 6 next month ....
PS It has a detachable single inner with roll up divider
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Oh bugga, I cant remember if it has 2 bedrooms or one with roll up wotsit. I think it might have 2 seperate ones.
I forgot it has a ZIG not a SIG too so it can be zipped off so the canvas would be alot lighter to roll up and pack away. After the summer we have had, let's not even get started on the subject of packing away a tent with a wet/muddy sig. Zip it off, pack canvas away.. sorted !
I can pitch a pyramid on my own as long as it is not a De Waard or Randstad. The only reason is that they have poles running from the back pole to the front corners and they have to be threaded through sleeves so that needs more patience then I have when it comes to pitching a tent but other pyramids are easy. Get the U shaped bit around the front up with a couple of loose guys on then off you go :)
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Topic: Cabanon vs Hypercamp?
Glad to see you haven't stopped posting, we've all missed you!
I also like the look of the Escala but I think it might be a bit big to manage on my own ..... happy to be put right about that if anyone has any experience of putting one of them up single handedly...?!
