hi all...i`m new to this excellent site and have a couple of questions. my fleetwood has delamination at 2 seams, on the floor, going across the van. would i drill holes 2 inches parallel to the seam (to give a "hole" space of 4 inches in total) and fill?
is the recomended holes 7 or 10 mm.
also is there a ready mixed glue you could use, in a rtv, sealent type of tube, that you could use with a gun, to save mixing, and putting in a syringe.
hi,delamination...frightening no if you set out your stall and take your time.this is not a two hour job as stated,when you have finished you will know why they charge so much at the caravan repair shop.i have just done ours a few months ago.i will go through the steps best i can.ours had gone in two places,next to the door entrance and next to the sink four feet away.you will find that delamination is where the floor is used most.ie next to the sink and the door entrance.first decide how much delamination you have,ie.2 feet (old school) or 6 feet,this information is required when you go to order your epoxi resin mix.one mix will cover about 3 feet by 3 feet.got mine from barrons £25 for both tins.you also need a large syringe to inject the mixed epoxi resin.this will also sell.also the chemicals (glue) are called apollo 1 and apollo 2.i think the code is A8136.the small tin is the hardener and must be used in the time on the tin.the first thing is to remove all carpets or lino.second(must) tape up all joints and the cowls under the caravan .use a good tape.ie brown packing tape,3 in wide.if you dont the glue will run out on to the ground outside through all the seams.you will not know until you see a pool on the path..third ,support the floor under the van in some way so it cannnot bend when pressure is placed on top,do not push up the floor.you can damage the fittings inside.use wood blocks stacked up just touching the floor on the underside in the same place as the delamination.fourth find a sharp 10mm drill .you need to buy 10 mm round wood to cut and plug the holes,sold in 6 foot lengths.this needs cutting into plugs,half inch long and sanded down at one end to make it go in easy.the next step is to do a test hole,find a place that has no gas pipes on the underside.slowly drill one hole until it only just touches the plywood at the bottom.DO NOT DRILL THROUGH.tape up the drill at this depth,use plenty of tape to stop the drill going deeper than it should.mark out the area of delamination,black marker,in a square grid pattern of 4 inch each way .when finished you will have a large square full of holes to the size of the delamination.ie.3 x 3 feet.clean away all and any dust or shavings.have a large polythene bag ready to put over the square,the glue does not stick to polythene.you need a tin or old pan to mix into of the correct size for size of mix.a clean strong stick to stir the mix.only mix what you need within the time allowed.start at the rear end injecting the holes one by one until it flows out then plug with the wood plug.when finished ,place poly bag over all holes.put a heavy weight on top ie.wheels and tyres or gas bottles.leave for 24 hours to dry.sand down all plugs until smooth.you must wear a mask for the fumes and open the windows when you are doing the job.rubber gloves are handy too.CHECK UNDERSIDE FOR GAS PIPES BEFORE STARTING.wish i could type. thought this may help
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no,for the slight dip , place a length of wood,say 2x2inch about 3 foot in length. pre drill this,then screw through the floor top layer of ply.this should pull the layer to the wood 2x2.if it does not use packing under the 2x2 to lift the floor.once the floor is level.use the resin as explained to fill the void in the floor.when the floor is dried,remove the 2x2.
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Got the kit, read Michaels instructions,but don't know what preportions to mix the two packs. Can you help.Please. I am hoping to start the job tomorrow..............
hi
I have posted this in another thread on the topic, but thought I'd try here too. We can't get the delamination kits down here, but with Michaels help I have info on the resin so that I can find a substitute. The question now is on the "syringe". Is this just a normal caulking gun? If so, do they supply empty cartridges in the kits for the resin. Are these empty cartridges available to purchase separately?
Got the kit, read Michaels instructions,but don't know what preportions to mix the two packs. Can you help.Please. I am hoping to start the job tomorrow..............
not being rude but if you read on the tin,and if i remember correctly.use half the large tin,pour into a clean container that can hold half the large tin and half the small tin and mix well.with a clean stick.any dirt will clog the syringe nozel.i used a paint tin cleaned out.the small tin is the hardener and once added it starts to go off.there should be a time scale on the tin ie.15/20 min.it does get hot dont worry thats normal.hope this helps.
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The question now is on the "syringe". Is this just a normal caulking gun? If so, do they supply empty cartridges in the kits for the resin. Are these empty cartridges available to purchase separately?
the syringe looks like the normal one used in the doctors one only 10 times larger
Post last edited on 29/04/2006 23:22:58
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I hope this is of some help , I bought from this guy on ebay and he supplies the whole kit, you just pour the small pot into the large pot and thats it just fill the holes , here is the ebay number
I hope this is of some help , I bought from this guy on ebay and he supplies the whole kit, you just pour the small pot into the large pot and thats it just fill the holes , here is the ebay number
4625041235
hi you cannot do that because you have not time to use it all in one go (setting time)if you are doing the job correctly,by this i mean plugging all the holes as you .its better mixed in two separate batches.this gives more control of how fast you want to do the job.if its only a small area you may get away with it.
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O.K. But thats the way I did it and it was done in february (perhaps it was a slower setting time in the cold but I put a heater in the van for a couple of days) . I followed the instructions to the letter and it was no problem at all.
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