The Caravan and Motorhome Club

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Message posted by baileyman on 21/02/2017 13:58:56

Seems like a great waste of money to me. What difference us a change of name going to make?
I imagine the logo designers have done really well out if it at

Message posted by geoff+emmy on 21/02/2017 14:18:08

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Bet the sign makers have done better..

Message posted by Ray Clayton on 21/02/2017 15:05:55

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Relaunching, rebranding and renaming.
not established in 1907 then, if its a new name / club?

Established in 2017

Message posted by sennen26 on 21/02/2017 15:33:36

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The registered name is still the Caravan Club the makeover is just shiney bits to make MH's think its for them, which it is and always has been.

Sennen

Message posted by marg6 on 21/02/2017 16:36:39

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it should be called the caravan, motorhome or tent club the way they are letting tents onto the club sites, but then again it might confuse between the camping and caravan club wouldnt it?

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 21/02/2017 18:13:41

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Can't see it affecting anyone..it will be business as usual..

Message posted by nora on 21/02/2017 18:31:00

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We were at the show and the caravan stand . I did read caravan and motor home club . I just thought it I was another area of the club .
I would have thought it had always been both but may be motor home owners like the idea .
I don't mind as long as it stays the same . I forgot to ask why their new sites book is so late .

Message posted by Pickled Onion on 21/02/2017 19:05:38

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A sign of the times I suppose, the change of name better reflects their customer base. I personally like it and the new colour scheme, as long as the prices don't go up to pay for it all.

Dave.

Message posted by Ray Clayton on 21/02/2017 19:14:18

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Hi Dave

I hope not, they say they will not.
Only time will tell.

Message posted by tango55 on 21/02/2017 19:25:03

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This youtube video explains more about the change to the Caravan and Motorhome Club.

Here

Message posted by Hacksaw Bob on 21/02/2017 19:25:10

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Quote: Originally posted by Pickled Onion on 21/2/2017
I personally like it and the new colour scheme...

Reminds me of a couple of rusty horseshoes, to be honest!

Message posted by Greg M on 21/02/2017 20:02:21

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Lets be honest, it's no longer a club.
It's a huge business enterprise.
Why waste money on rebranding?, be better giving members more discounts.
Regards,
Greg

Message posted by ldpdmp on 21/02/2017 21:24:37

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Wow we all seem to agree. A waste of money in reality. Will it attract more people? Probably not. The website talks about inclusiveness. I have been a member for over 30 years. If the wardens were a little bit more friendly then members might feel there is a degree of inclusivity. I just love being told I am too early after an M25 grilling.

Message posted by SHARON89 on 21/02/2017 21:35:44

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Still be just caravan club to us...why the change.

Message posted by marg6 on 21/02/2017 22:01:07

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i forgot to add, for those as members, where we consulted over this name change? because I for one haven't seen anything thr my door asking my opinion regarding this, anyone else had anything?

Message posted by Hacksaw Bob on 21/02/2017 22:20:34

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Quote: Originally posted by marg6 on 21/2/2017
i forgot to add, for those as members, where we consulted over this name change? because I for one haven't seen anything thr my door asking my opinion regarding this, anyone else had anything?

"Were the members consulted?

The change in name and logo were based on your feedback and in consultation with your representatives on the Committee. Together, we’re embarking on a journey of investment in the future of our Club."

from this page.

Message posted by marg6 on 21/02/2017 22:25:13

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I never gave any feedback regarding this matter at all! did anyone else?

Message posted by bofs on 21/02/2017 23:04:07

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No - and can't recall being asked or it even being mentioned.

Message posted by ldpdmp on 21/02/2017 23:12:51

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no consultation at all

Message posted by tango55 on 22/02/2017 00:31:08

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If none of the Caravan Club members were consulted about the change then how can the club promote that the change is in the interest of it's members?
It can't really so it is obvious that the committee have agreed to this change whether the members like it or not.

Message posted by kevinsheldon on 22/02/2017 07:42:56

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It's merely a sop towards the 38% of C&MC motorhoming members. With their present booking system I am still unable to opt for a hard standing pitch when booking online. I'm still working. To arrive in our 3.5 ton motorhome at a rain soaked site late Friday afternoon only to be shown to a spongy grass pitch because all hard standings had been taken by the club's first come first served policy? Not for me thankyou. It's a lottery I can do without.

Message posted by baileyman on 22/02/2017 07:43:32

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'we're embarking on a journey' ... how I hate that stupid expression.
Probably a big waste of money, like other organisations have done with rebranding, won't make any difference

Message posted by Battie on 22/02/2017 07:54:39

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I wonder if they are going to pay for my new signage on my van? If not it will be staying as the
caravan club

Message posted by Pickled Onion on 22/02/2017 08:20:14

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Quote: Originally posted by Ray Clayton on 21/2/2017
Hi Dave

I hope not, they say they will not.
Only time will tell.

Hi Ray,

You are correct, it always does.

I think they want to make sure that the vast revenue stream from the ever increasing motorhome customer client base is maximised by inclusion in the name before another club does.

Dave.

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 22/02/2017 10:42:20

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I might be wrong but I would assume that this would have been brought up at regional CC meetings that members are able to attend and voice their opinions.
I again might be wrong but I believe that in some regions, attendance is very poor by CC members.

Someone has to make a decison regarding changes in any business and thats what the committee do. Just like a board of directors in any company.

I think its too early to comment about any changes that might be made. The email I received as would all members, states that the club is making changes to keep up with the times. Is that such a bad thing and if rebranding brings more business/revenue, surely we as members will benefit from that.
You have to speculate to accumulate in business.

They are bringing wifi to all sites within the year for starters. So I will give it a year or two and see what happens before I make a decision if its right for us or not to continue our membership.

I find the site fees comparable with non club sites of the same standard in my experience.
I realise some sites down south are more expensive due to location, facilities such as having a bar etc.

I have never had any issues with wardens on CC sites and never had reason to complain about facilities or cleanliness etc.

I also know that I cannot get on site before 12.00, so why would I waste time complaining when the warden tells me I can't get on before 12.00.

Why would I complain about getting my caravan in line with the peg on the pitch, when I know there is a good safety reason for it.

I have been a member off and on for 44 years and honestly believe the CC have got it mostly right for everyone to enjoy.
That is apart from folks who just don't like clubs which is fine with me. We can all vote with our feet if we really want to but lets complain when we have an actual complaint.

Oh! and a belated welcome to all Motorhomers to the CC

Message posted by marg6 on 22/02/2017 11:03:58

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surely seeing as they have all our addresses as they send out the magazine every month, they could have put a slip in there informing of the proposed change and put it to the vote, either postal or by each member putting their membership number in and voting online?

the way they have done this is far to sneaky for my liking, no mention of it anywhere prior to yesterday

Message posted by tango55 on 22/02/2017 11:17:25

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Another point to take into consideration that nobody has mentioned is the cost of production for the hundreds of new CMC logo signs for all the CL sites that will certainly have to display at the entrance. The cost of this will have be incorporated somewhere so we may expect an unexpected rise of membership to contribute towards this.

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 22/02/2017 12:35:45

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As in any business, I would imagine you would need to be a shareholder to have a vote.
I think we all need to realise that the CC is a business and needs to be to survive.
Its not the gentlemans club some people think it used to be and in some cases still think that way.

Not being rude but it is what it is, the club part is in name only. Its your choice, its like paying membership for a gym. You do not have any priviliges other than the use of the gym and its facilities.

Message posted by kpnuts81 on 22/02/2017 12:46:38

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Had my new window stickers through the post this morning, won't be putting them on, what purpose do they serve?

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 22/02/2017 12:50:16

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Quote: Originally posted by kpnuts81 on 22/2/2017
Had my new window stickers through the post this morning, won't be putting them on, what purpose do they serve?

Likewise kp, just came in the post. Handy for covering that odd ding from an awning pole

Message posted by sennen26 on 22/02/2017 14:39:14

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It has not been the Caravan Club for 110 only for 58 years. According to companies house it was set up 31st December 1959 so it must have had another name then. And possible thats when it changed from a members club to a business. It is a business so we would not have to vote for any name change the director's would just be able to change it.

Sennen

Message posted by sennen26 on 22/02/2017 14:45:18

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Just received a reply from the CC about the wardens there are not going Orange but Burgndy so I would imagine that the club signs will also be Burgundy.

Sennen

Message posted by Ray Clayton on 22/02/2017 18:49:03

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Hi
Link to new CL sign.
Really stands out NOT

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/globalassets/discussions/849cd60f-6e29-4641-9........

Message posted by John4703 on 22/02/2017 18:59:32

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Quote: Originally posted by SHARON89 on 21/2/2017
Still be just caravan club to us...why the change.

I agree just as The Camping & Caravanning Club is still the CCGBI to me.

Message posted by 664DaveS on 22/02/2017 19:53:55

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We got some stickers today as well as the new sites book.
It will cost a bit to change the logo on all their signs etc!
Perhaps motorhomers felt left out!

Post last edited on 22/02/2017 19:57:06

Message posted by marg6 on 22/02/2017 20:24:56

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did you notice tho the envelope it came in was still the caravan club "proper" logo on it!

Message posted by richardandjo2010 on 22/02/2017 20:54:38

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I got my stickers today a cover note said it is an exciting time, I cant say im excited, if this is what it takes for those at the top to get excited then I think they should get out more

Message posted by Hacksaw Bob on 22/02/2017 21:13:30

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I got a free pen (with the new logo!) at the Show yesterday!

Message posted by maughanjen on 22/02/2017 22:33:28

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Got my stickers and a sheet full of corrections to add to the book. Complete waste of money, and extra costs for signage changes. Interesting to see if costs increase on sites.

Message posted by ldpdmp on 23/02/2017 00:04:11

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sent my stickers back!

Message posted by Mrs. Bonce on 23/02/2017 06:40:35

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Threw ours in the bin! what a waste of money.

Message posted by fran1000 on 23/02/2017 06:47:17

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I wonder if they're trying to seem a bit more modern and inclusive? I think the CC has a somewhat fuddy-duddy image and they probably want to widen their appeal.

I reckon they've realised that there are a lot of hipster types who love to camp in retro (aka old) motor homes and are hoping to attract more members by making it transparent that they are welcome. Your sites will soon be filled with free-range kids with names like Crispian and Jocasta, and their indulgent parents!

Message posted by SGThomas on 23/02/2017 08:20:53

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A new name and some stickers.!

O be still my racing heart! Life does not get much better than this.

Subscription rise to cover signage?

I had joined the Caravan club when they had members,now weseem to be units of income.

Message posted by baileyman on 23/02/2017 09:16:37

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Message posted by VangoMan02 on 23/02/2017 11:04:51

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Quote: Originally posted by fran1000 on 23/2/2017
I wonder if they're trying to seem a bit more modern and inclusive? I think the CC has a somewhat fuddy-duddy image and they probably want to widen their appeal.

I reckon they've realised that there are a lot of hipster types who love to camp in retro (aka old) motor homes and are hoping to attract more members by making it transparent that they are welcome. Your sites will soon be filled with free-range kids with names like Crispian and Jocasta, and their indulgent parents!

For a person that works within a social work type environment , I find that quite a sweeping statement and stereotyping people you do not know.
A very narrow minded opinion from someone who works with homeless people. How do you describe them?

Message posted by Opensauce on 23/02/2017 11:21:57

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Change of name will be to will be to get new motorhomers to join as well as new caravanners. I wonder how many new caravanners over the years have joined for no other reason than they thought they should because they have a caravan?

They may find that once joined that there is actually no good reason for them being members but it's still money in the bank for the club.

My ebay bargain CoC has caravan club stickers plastered all over the back that I can't be bothered to remove & I've never been a member in my life...

Message posted by BERTIE on 23/02/2017 11:37:22

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With the towing laws as they are, younger people are finding it easier to have a small camper and large awning than to tow a caravan - maybe we do need to move with the times :-)

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 23/02/2017 12:57:01

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If the CC or the CCC have sites in areas you like and would use often, then it makes perfect sense to join one. If not then you pay an awful lot more per pitch.
Common sense really if its what you want to do.

Might not suit everyone but it seems to suit many or both clubs would not exist.
Members of both clubs have been known to sneak out now and again to a non club site when know one is looking

Message posted by peter1474 on 23/02/2017 13:26:19

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I just priced up the Woods site in our area, an affiliated site. Affiliated my ass, CC prices, £30 odd a night for us and 2 grandkids. It is a nice site but it isn't worth £30. In fact no site is.

Message posted by bessie500 on 23/02/2017 15:02:33

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Personally i thinks its a waste of money, i also think that the new logo looks poor.

I just priced up the Woods site in our area, an affiliated site. Affiliated my ass, CC prices, £30 odd a night for us and 2 grandkids. It is a nice site but it isn't worth £30. In fact no site is.

peter loads of sites are now £30+ with little of no facilities.

bessie

Message posted by peter1474 on 23/02/2017 15:05:20

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Quote: Originally posted by bessie500 on 23/2/2017
Personally i thinks its a waste of money, i also think that the new logo looks poor.

I just priced up the Woods site in our area, an affiliated site. Affiliated my ass, CC prices, £30 odd a night for us and 2 grandkids. It is a nice site but it isn't worth £30. In fact no site is.

peter loads of sites are now £30+ with little of no facilities.

bessie

I can assure you none that we go to are that price with better facilities, and anyone paying that for little or no facilities is not researching their sites properly.

Message posted by bessie500 on 23/02/2017 15:29:17

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I suppose that depends on what your looking for, i've just checked our easter booking for the wirral and thats around the same price as what you quoted, but with less facilities, but both are in very nice areas at least the woods has a restaurant.
personally i dont think £30 is 2 bad for a family of 4 at peak times......less would be better

Bessie

Message posted by marramc48 on 23/02/2017 15:34:15

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Quote: Originally posted by VangoMan02 on 22/2/17

I find the site fees comparable with non club sites of the same standard in my experience.
I realise some sites down south are more expensive due to location, facilities such as having a bar etc.

Surely if the site fees are comparable to commercial sites, the general public should be paying a similar fee to the comparable commercial sites and club members should be paying a discounted fee!!!

Message posted by rooster 65 on 23/02/2017 15:56:21

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I find the renaming of the caravan club astonishing , as after 32 years a member I always believed the members were the club. Now we find the jobsworths at the top are ruling with absolutely no consultation of the membership . By all means have motorhome owners in the caravan club but why change the name at which must have been at a very high cost .This money would have been better spent on site improvements .

Message posted by Mick S. on 23/02/2017 16:55:05

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Club site fees are paying for the fancy booking facilities, site books, and - usually- jobsworth wardens. I feel hard done by if i have to pay more than twenty quid a night for a site, especially outside BH's. If all you require is a tap and toilet emptying, some sites are still in single figures!

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 23/02/2017 17:22:05

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Quote: Originally posted by marramc48 on 23/2/2017

Quote: Originally posted by VangoMan02 on 22/2/17

I find the site fees comparable with non club sites of the same standard in my experience.
I realise some sites down south are more expensive due to location, facilities such as having a bar etc.

Surely if the site fees are comparable to commercial sites, the general public should be paying a similar fee to the comparable commercial sites and club members should be paying a discounted fee!!!

Message posted by peter1474 on 23/02/2017 17:27:50

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Its not all about the cost. Location has a lot to do with our holidays, not just the cost.
Some sites have comparable facilities but be in the middle of nowhere or more of a family site etc..etc..

Some non club sites can also be more expensive.
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Mmmmmmmm Let's see:
£20 a night Stirling
£30 a night Alloa

No contest you have to admit Stirling has it.
Ok no pub/restaurant but there is one within walking distance

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 23/02/2017 17:30:32

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Quote: Originally posted by VangoMan02 on 23/2/2017

Quote: Originally posted by marramc48 on 23/2/2017

Quote: Originally posted by VangoMan02 on 22/2/17

I find the site fees comparable with non club sites of the same standard in my experience.
I realise some sites down south are more expensive due to location, facilities such as having a bar etc.

Surely if the site fees are comparable to commercial sites, the general public should be paying a similar fee to the comparable commercial sites and club members should be paying a discounted fee!!!

Its not all about the cost. Location has a lot to do with our holidays, not just the cost.
Some sites have comparable facilities but be in the middle of nowhere or more of a family site etc..etc..

Some non club sites can also be more expensive.
As I said the CC or CCC might not be for everyone, so no one is twisting arms to join either

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 23/02/2017 17:47:40

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Quote: Originally posted by peter1474 on 23/2/2017

Its not all about the cost. Location has a lot to do with our holidays, not just the cost.
Some sites have comparable facilities but be in the middle of nowhere or more of a family site etc..etc..

Some non club sites can also be more expensive.

Mmmmmmmm Let's see:
£20 a night Stirling
£30 a night Alloa

No contest you have to admit Stirling has it.
Ok no pub/restaurant but there is one within walking distance

Peter the prices you quoted for The Woods was from end of May to end of August which is High season. £30 in high season for two adults and two children is not to bad for a site like The Woods.

Message posted by whoateallthepies on 23/02/2017 18:02:54

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Well, I must admit we do like using club sites and many of the wardens are ok, but we sometimes use non club sites that are far cheaper and in better locations than club sites. Some even with better shower blocks and security. But I must say the name change is fine, yes, but I feel should have involved us members, as I for one knew Moët about it. I feel if the caravan club can make films, and it's not cheap, which they aired last year and then change the logos, they must have money to burn. And yes, our money. Having spent millions on sight improvements and now they will have to spend thousands on changing all the site boards, it makes me wonder if they are making too much. Took away most of grass pitches, yes more income, so they can let hard standings all year, these are just some of my concerns, so now and I'm sure a few others, I am thinking twice about club renewal. They say the richer get greedier, what do you think

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 23/02/2017 18:19:02

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Just so non members are aware that the membership for the CC is less then £1 per week.
Some non members might not be aware of this.

Message posted by Greg M on 23/02/2017 18:56:03

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As Vangoman has pointed out, it is less than most people spend on one cup of coffee a week.
I will bring this to the fore........
Many people in the caravan club do not like motorhomes.
I was at a works retirees lunch today and an ex workmates wife said ,with a finger upturning her nose,"I didn't know you had a motorhome?"
My choice, tent, my body, something else.Would love to stay in tent. Don't call me a w++++r because I have gone with a motorhome. It is not by choice.
Back to the CC , agree with Vangoman, they are obviously trying to appeal to the many people who are foregoing foreign holidays for a caravan or motorhome.
Regards,
Greg

Message posted by Ray Clayton on 23/02/2017 19:02:09

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Vango
Bit more than a £1 a week with the £10 joining fee on top of £49 for the 1st year, makes it around £1.13

Don't think CCC have a joining fee and only £37
(on line membership) a year. £43 Paper membership a year.

I think sooner than later it will also bring tents to the front along with motorhomes, as the CCC does.

Then both clubs will be on a level playing field for all users?

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 23/02/2017 19:42:58

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Ray..Its so long ago I joined that I think it cost 1/6d.
Seriously though once joined its less than £1 per week not the extravagantly more expensive £1.13 that Ray mentioned

Message posted by bessie500 on 23/02/2017 20:35:47

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I don't for 1 minute think that caravaners don't like motorhomers

Bessie

Message posted by Hacksaw Bob on 23/02/2017 20:57:14

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Quote: Originally posted by Ray Clayton on 23/2/2017
Vango
Bit more than a £1 a week with the £10 joining fee on top of £49 for the 1st year, makes it around £1.13

Don't think CCC have a joining fee and only £37
(on line membership) a year. £43 Paper membership a year.

Actually, both Clubs have a joining fee of (currently) £10, but both waive this if paying by Direct Debit.

Message posted by Ray Clayton on 23/02/2017 21:02:49

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ok
i stand corrected lol
it was more tonge in cheek

Message posted by Hacksaw Bob on 23/02/2017 21:17:47

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Message posted by John4703 on 24/02/2017 11:16:13

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I joined The Camping Club of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in the 1950s, I am still a member but it is now the Camping & Caravanning Club.
We bought a caravan five years ago and joined the Caravan Club, we use sites from both clubs.
I do wonder if it is time for them to talk about joining together and forming one club so all members have the use of all sites that are suitable, some might not take tents, other not take caravans etc but most already take all types of unit.

Message posted by Alphonso De Lard on 24/02/2017 13:04:49

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Quote: Originally posted by John4703 on 24/2/2017
I joined The Camping Club of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in the 1950s, I am still a member but it is now the Camping & Caravanning Club.
We bought a caravan five years ago and joined the Caravan Club, we use sites from both clubs.
I do wonder if it is time for them to talk about joining together and forming one club so all members have the use of all sites that are suitable, some might not take tents, other not take caravans etc but most already take all types of unit.

Now that is a fantastic idea. So many benefits - to members of both clubs.

However, I think the snobbery from CC members, who seem deeply upset with just a name change, would only scoff at this suggestion.

I'm a CAMC member who strongly believes the club needs a massive change of emphasis concerning it's customer base, without enticing younger generations it simply has no future, and currently, it does little to embrace family campers (I still class myself as a camper even with the tin tent). I'm all for the re-brand, hopefully it's a stepping stone in the right direction for the club.

Message posted by Ray Clayton on 24/02/2017 15:40:24

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That would be good.
As said benifits would be great for both club members, and also the sites would more than double overnight.
But i don't think it will ever happen.
The greed of the directors of both clubs would come first andnot the menbers.

But never say never

Message posted by Wibsey on 26/02/2017 13:36:37

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I cancelled my renewal this year, I joined so we could use club sites, but have never been able to book the ones we want for a week, mainly due to people booking all the weekends out.
To be fair the lady I spoke to on the phone totally understood and put me under no pressure to change my mind, and even said if I decide to join again later just phone them.
I don`t see the point of re branding, but all big businesses do it, the company my hubby works for spent billions last year changing their logo, as the new CEO said that they need to morph into a new generation

Message posted by Opensauce on 26/02/2017 14:23:07

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Quote: Originally posted by John4703 on 24/2/2017
I do wonder if it is time for them to talk about joining together and forming one club so all members have the use of all sites that are suitable, some might not take tents, other not take caravans etc but most already take all types of unit.

You mistake both businesses for member's clubs. Amalgamation would be a seriously bad idea. Without 2 'clubs' competing for business prices would rise even more.

Message posted by Ray Clayton on 26/02/2017 16:07:02

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Opensauce

You be right there mate

Idea sounds good, but long term no competition.

Message posted by welshwyn on 26/02/2017 17:02:09

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As long as any club I belong to provides me with what I want and I can make use of it's services, then I don't mind what it's called.

However what is interesting that there has been 2617 views on this topic, but only 74 replies, is that an indicator that over 2500 people who have viewed this topic are not concerned what the name of the club is; and perhaps also a indicator of what the vast majority of the membership think.

Message posted by blueexpo97 on 27/02/2017 07:10:02

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Doesn't mean that number of people have actually viewed the thread, one person could have viewed it fifty times and so on.

Message posted by Alphonso De Lard on 27/02/2017 11:34:52

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Quote: Originally posted by Ray Clayton on 26/2/2017
Opensauce

You be right there mate

Idea sounds good, but long term no competition.

Surely the competition is coming from improving independent/privately owned sites, which are starting to offer far more than the CAMC for a similar or sometimes lower prices?

Message posted by Opensauce on 27/02/2017 11:43:02

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The more competition the better. On a related note see how prices have risen on Dover ferries since 3 operators were reduced to 2.

Message posted by ldpdmp on 27/02/2017 21:52:20

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I filed mine in that wheelie thing. The signs were changed a few years ago from a dark green to a light green I wonder what colour they are going to be this time. Trouble is CC prices are now getting quite expensive I notice it particularly after coming home from a summer in France staying on good sites with pools etc. The French sites are often cheaper than here. I know that some French ones are a huge price and a rip off, but I leave those to families with teenagers

Message posted by sennen26 on 27/02/2017 22:12:43

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I had a reply from the CC informing me that the new colour is Burgundy for the wardens not sure if the signs are changing.

Sennen

Message posted by moorlander999 on 27/02/2017 23:26:21

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The new logo looks like The Walls Ice Cream branding

Message posted by whoateallthepies on 27/02/2017 23:36:04

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Moorlander999 you beat me to it, just about to say same thing

Message posted by moorlander999 on 27/02/2017 23:37:03

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D'oh. !!

Message posted by ajm6730 on 01/03/2017 07:45:02

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How can they keep 'Since 1907' as part of their logo?
Those who run the former Caravan Club (as it is now known by me) have abandoned a historical, well-respected marque in order, obviously, to try and gain a larger slice of the motorhome market.
A mistake, in my opinion. The new name and logo are bland, look recently-created (as they are) and have lost the attractiveness and confidence the Caravan Club offered.
Motorhomers have always been welcome and part of the club anyway. Are there any motorhomers who actually disagree with the name change?

Message posted by bev+jon on 06/03/2017 15:24:48

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Been teetering on the brink of joining up again for a while now.this has put us off,seems like an awful waste of members money and having been quoted £30 a night for 2 of us at clumber park end of march seems members are already paying for the change of signage and uniforms etc.
C&CC or go it alone now.

Message posted by moorlander999 on 06/03/2017 15:45:55

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Spoke to a friend who runs a CL and they think it's appalling
The cost of creating branding will ultimately borne by members through the increase in fees both annual membership and the cost of sites

The logo should have read - "formerly the caravan club"

Or " The caravan and motor home club " founded 2017

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Message posted by VangoMan02 on 06/03/2017 16:11:03

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Reading the posts on here, it looks like a lot of people will be leaving the new club and some deciding not to join now.
I suppose time will tell if thats the case.

Message posted by moorlander999 on 06/03/2017 16:15:13

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Lets see if the cost of membership / site fees increase dramatically in the next two years ????

Message posted by Alphonso De Lard on 06/03/2017 16:37:22

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I was under the impression site fees hadn't risen. How much less than £30 was it at Clumber park last year for two in March?

Message posted by Greg M on 06/03/2017 17:16:20

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Quote: Originally posted by VangoMan02 on 06/3/2017
Reading the posts on here, it looks like a lot of people will be leaving the new club and some deciding not to join now.
I suppose time will tell if thats the case.

I think you are right Vangoman, at least two of my ex workmates are not renewing their memberships with a third considering leaving, thats one caravanner and two motorhomers.
Not a good sign.
Regards,
Greg

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 06/03/2017 17:33:26

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I am on the fence at the moment Greg. I will wait and see what actually happens.
Its all sabre rattling at present IMO.
A small increase will not make me leave as the CC has some of our favourite sites.

This thread has encouraged me have a look at more private/commercial sites small and large to compare standards/prices, basically what you get for your money.

From what I can see there is not a great deal of difference price wise. Some are slightly cheaper and others more expensive than the CC prices.

Its swings and roundabouts and all down to what we each want from a site and are willing to pay.

Then again it might all change when the dust settles but as I say we will wait and see, no rush!

Message posted by John4703 on 06/03/2017 17:52:13

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I like the CC sites or CMC sites as they are all well maintained with reasonable sized pitches. I am not sure about the re-branding but as long as the sites stay as good I'll use them. I pay £44 a year for membership which is a lot less that the cost of a night in a cheap hotel.

Message posted by moorlander999 on 06/03/2017 18:05:23

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I've only remained in the club so that I can use two CL's we regularly use

I don't like the large sites - too regimental

Message posted by AL53HX on 07/03/2017 16:36:34

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I only remain a member to get my next two services free.
Here are two sites that I looked at for my next break.

Hurn Lane club site, Berrow, Brean.

11th March one night (from)£19.50 per night.

Northam Farm, Berrow, Brean

11th March one night to include two adults ehu,awning,fishing if you wish,hard standing,£14.50 per night,+£1 per dog.
Guess which one I booked for five nights

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 07/03/2017 17:31:20

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Is there a prize if we guess right

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 07/03/2017 23:07:02

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Quote: Originally posted by AL53HX on 07/3/2017
I only remain a member to get my next two services free.
Here are two sites that I looked at for my next break.

Hurn Lane club site, Berrow, Brean.

11th March one night (from)£19.50 per night.

Northam Farm, Berrow, Brean

11th March one night to include two adults ehu,awning,fishing if you wish,hard standing,£14.50 per night,+£1 per dog.
Guess which one I booked for five nights

You also get hardstanding and hookup at the CC site and the dog is free.
However if you look at mid April the CC site will cost you £23.20 per night including the dog and Northam Farm site will cost you £27.50 including the dog.

Message posted by ct955 on 07/03/2017 23:36:43

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I'm hoping that it will be easier for me to get bookings at the weekend on CAMC sites if all these people are not renewing or joining.😉 Each to their own I think. Some of these super cheap prices are low season or mid week. Not all of us are able to take advantage.

Message posted by sue.too on 08/03/2017 03:36:01

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Good grief. People not renewing their membership?

It's just a name change!

It's just a name change, presumably to reflect that motorhomes as well as caravans are welcome to join and stay.

Are you really going to stop using something that you enjoy because they changed the name?!

I'm not sure that I understand.

Message posted by Alphonso De Lard on 08/03/2017 09:25:54

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Quote: Originally posted by sue.too on 08/3/2017
Good grief. People not renewing their membership?

It's just a name change!

It's just a name change, presumably to reflect that motorhomes as well as caravans are welcome to join and stay.

Are you really going to stop using something that you enjoy because they changed the name?!

I'm not sure that I understand.

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 08/03/2017 10:02:17

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Message posted by chrisn7 on 08/03/2017 13:35:08

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At the NEC we were handed a copy of the C&MH magazine.

As it happened the CC mag had arrived the same week. The difference in tone is quite striking.

The CC mag reminds me of those corporate staff publications that try to be friendly but somehow always finish up being distant and impersonal.

The C&MH by contrast was an enjoyable read apparently written by real people with real opinions and not sanitized ones.

I only mention this as it seems indicative of the way in which the CC has lost credibility with its members. Ahanfe is in the air for us I think...

Message posted by Webmaster on 08/03/2017 16:51:40

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Hi Chris, I'm confused, you mention the CC mag and the CAMH mag - which are now the same thing / club? Or is the "C&MH magazine" you refer to something else ( Scottish Caravans and Motorhomes Magazine maybe? https://www.isubscribe.co.uk/Scottish-Caravans-And-Motorhomes-Magazine-Subscription.cfm ) Sorry if I'm missing the obvious!

Cheers

Ian

Message posted by Webmaster on 08/03/2017 16:55:57

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Quote: Originally posted by sue.too on 08/3/2017

Are you really going to stop using something that you enjoy because they changed the name?!

I'm not sure that is actually the reason. As I interpret it, some members feel this is an example of how the Club ignores them, or doesn't have the same priorities as they do - ie it spends a huge amount of time and effort and members' money on rebranding, rather than improving club sites, or reducing costs. Could just be the straw that breaks the camel's back when they are deciding whether to continue with them .......

Not saying I necessarily take that viewpoint myself, it's just what I think some people are concluding.

Cheers

Ian

Message posted by Greg M on 08/03/2017 18:03:21

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Hi Ian,
As I mentioned earlier in the thread some friends of mine are leaving the club.
Personally I will hang on and see what happens.
Their biggest gripe was that they had not been consulted or had a hint it was coming. I believe some people who feel like "true" club members feel snubbed.Also they feel like money has been wasted which will be passed on to them.After all ,many are pensioners.

It will be interesting to see club numbers in a years time.
Regards,
Greg

Message posted by bobmel on 08/03/2017 22:24:00

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Agree. The word 'Club' as per the Cambridge dictionary, "organization of people with a common purpose or interest, who meet regularly and take part in shared activities"
I am just hacked off at the money spent on a needless re branding and no consultation with the members.

Message posted by chrisn7 on 09/03/2017 00:30:30

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Quote: Originally posted by Webmaster on 08/3/2017
Hi Chris, I'm confused, you mention the CC mag and the CAMH mag - which are now the same thing / club? Or is the "C&MH magazine" you refer to something else ( Scottish Caravans and Motorhomes Magazine maybe? https://www.isubscribe.co.uk/Scottish-Caravans-And-Motorhomes-Magazine-Subscription.cfm ) Sorry if I'm missing the obvious!

Cheers

Ian

Ian - apologies, my error. In full, I was comparing the Caravan Club as was, with the Camping and Caravanning Club magazines.

Message posted by whoateallthepies on 09/03/2017 06:08:32

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It may be just a name change but this thread has clearly give us members a chance to air our views. It was the way it was done and god knows of the costs involved. I once had a run in with a site warden. His attitude was terrible. Certainly not my fault, the club done nothing about it when I complained. This got me going and that's why I may not be renewing my membership, but yes everyone has their own decisions

Message posted by vmman on 14/05/2017 20:54:38

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Great to see the club keeping up to date. 40% of new members are Motorhomers. We need to be ready for the future. Lots of old people just don't like change.

Message posted by kenles on 14/05/2017 22:24:51

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Members please park on to the peg so you look neat that is why all caravans white. Do's it mean we can park anyway round How can call it a club .it's not a club

Message posted by John4703 on 14/05/2017 22:32:30

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Quote: Originally posted by kenles on 14/5/2017
Members please park on to the peg so you look neat that is why all caravans white. Do's it mean we can park anyway round How can call it a club .it's not a club

I got severely reprimanded for not parking my caravan is the correct position.
I wonder if a load of "ordinary" members could attend the AGM and get the rule changed to let members park anywhere on the pitch. I'd like that.

Message posted by misterg on 14/05/2017 22:33:58

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The new name is hard to oppose as it reflects reality. However I hav felt that the Club is out of touch with members. It used to provide good value holidays. It has always published glowing reviews on caravans.I can't recall a critical report.when I challenged them on why they did not review a best selling Bailey which left the factory with 100kg nose weifgt they said they only test vans submitted by manufacturers. So beware of buying a van they do not review!

Message posted by VangoMan02 on 15/05/2017 08:00:36

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As mentioned before, parking inline with the peg on pitches is there to ensure safe distance between vans.
Let people do as they like and we will be tripping over awning guylines. As happens on some commercial sites where they cram them in like sardines.

Is it more to do with some people not being able to reverse well enough thats getting their back up. I have seen many struggle to line the van up.

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