Quote: Originally posted by rwhites1 on 04/2/2014Wildcamped there 7days 1 day at a campsite getting water,charge battery,empty toilet.I picked up all the litter on the banking at the back of the car terrace that people had left and bottles off the beach.There was guy sleeping in the car with a young girl and a guy in another with no legs they were there all week and possibly longer. Lincolnshire is off my camping list now always liked hutoft UK is anti motorhome
Okay, so "well done" for picking up litter BUT come on!..you've "Wildcamped there7 days", !?..So don't you realise that YOU(and those doing likewise) were/are seen to be part of the problem?....
"Off grid" pitching is supposed to be about having the odd night(or two?) and then moving on..Not setting up camp on some carpark and taking a weeks' holiday and/or living there for a week...
(...especially one that was supposedly just set up for fishermen overnighting.....).
Is it really any wonder that there are "anti-motorhome" sentiments about......
No ones mentioned this yet, but a lot of overnight coastal wildcamping spots have been closed due to health and safety issues connected with the risks from heavy seas, unstable cliffs above carparks, and indeed the litter and rubbish left behind by overnight campers of all kinds.
This is not just specific to Lincolnshire, but many areas of the British coastline have made these bans and with the recent storm damage around our coast its easy to see why. During daylight hours, its fairly easy for people to be awake to react to the changing conditions, but by night, with lower visibility, and most people sleeping, a sudden storm or high spring tide with a salt surge can occur with very little warning, with the possibility of danger to life.
Julia
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Off grid" pitching is supposed to be about having the odd night(or two?) and then moving on..Not setting up camp on some carpark and taking a weeks' holiday and/or living there for a week...
Who says so! you
I was not bothering anybody enviromental friendly used my solar panel.Most motorhomehome take their litter with them or put it in bins, it's the day trippers in cars and then the locals blame the motorhomers
Camping on these car parks is not wild camping, they are just that car parks. (try camping on Tescos car park). They are owened by East Lindsey Council, who are the body responsible for policing the caravan and camping sites in this area. It would be poor practice to enforce the regulations on other peoples campsites , yet turn a blind eye to infringments on their own land. The local bye-laws prohibit camping anywhere on the foreshore So make no mistake, people who camp in these areas are law breakers. And as an ex emploree of E.L.D.C. (Beach Maintainance Officer) I can assure you 'travellers' are a major problem, many now use high end motorhomes to escape the obvious traveller look.
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That's interesting what you say about the "travellers"..I suppose I was really meaning/envisaging the "tarmac ya drive,Boss?", of Irish origin, types...
I should imagine that maybe the ones in the "high end motorhomes" would call themselves "Full-timers" or "long-termers"(..perhaps renting their house out whilst they "Live the dream"..)?...
I've got absolutely nothing against proper, responsible, discrete "Wild-camping" but as I've said before, pitching up on coastal car-parks/headlands/beauty spots(sometimes in "herds")and then assuming that just because nobody has told them to clear off, that then means that they've had no impact, is either a) Naive or b)Selfish....
..and it's not just about what rubbish people may or may not leave or the noise they may or may not make etc, it's the visual impact that they have(..and not wishing to sound all "hippy" and for want of better words,I suppose a psychological/emotional impact as well..).
People go to these areas for the views, the seascapes,the vast skies, the tranquillity etc...and no matter how slight an impact overnighting-MHers may think they have, people living in rows of large mobile boxes hardly add to the experience....
To those who still see nothing wrong in it...Then I would say, just picture your local beauty spot, your favourite dog walk or the picnic spot that you take your Grandkids to..or any tranquil spot where you like go to unwind for that matter...
Now...picture it with a load of MHs and converted vans, with people living there for a week+ at a time...
...I bet that picture isn't quite so lovely now, is it..!
Most of the East Lothian beach car parks have gantries. The odd one that does not, if it's at the back of the beach, has MHs parked so close together that the wing mirrors are almost touching, and you could pass a beer between windows. This may be wild, it's certainly free, but I'd rather be on a site where the 6m rule (or more) is enforced, for safety reasons. Another thread showed a photo of a MH that had burnt out, I don't want to go up in flames because of the MH that came later squeezed in beside me. Never mind hearing neighbours' phonecalls / TV / music / bedtime activities. Some of the Ayrshire car parks that back the beach have gantries too, as they used to be taken over by Travellers (of the prune-your-tree-then-dump-the-cuttings variety) - there aren't enough Travellers' sites for them. However, the grass verge of the coast road is always dotted with caravans all summer (you can tell they've been there for ages as the council cuts the grass round them) - sure, it's free, presumably wild, but I don't want to be buffeted by passing lorries and breathing the fumes as I sit outside with my drink. The Access legislation up here allows responsible access - the discussions about litter, dog poo etc demonstrates what's not responsible behaviour, whoever is doing it. So don't start me on campers who cut living wood for their fires rather than collecting drift wood... one of my favourite spots on Arran is being ruined by this, with the burnt patches in the grass sward.
Hmmm - although campaigning for Motor Caravan parking, he travels to these places by car, so entry, for him, is not a problem and is not against the rules. He posts on many motorhoming forums and asks for donations from members on all of them - maybe he's making a good living from it, whilst annoying the local authorities everywhere
On the one hand ,it seems that they're more than happy to shout about barriers or "bans" being "illegal"...because procedures weren't fully adhered to or some or other form hadn't been submitted correctly etc etc..
And yet, as that bloke indicates on his link/website, if needs be,he'll gladly park up against the barrier and in doing so deliberately block the car park entrance, therefore stopping anyone else from using it!...
It's strange how some people pick and choose which "laws" they want to abide with, isn't it.....
Wouldn't it be more productive if they tried to make the business case for these "overnight camping" locations?..and put forward projections(and proof?) of how much revenue it could/does bring into the local shops/cafes etc ?...
(..But of cause, in many cases, despite what some may try to tell us, a good many will spend little, if anything, in the area they are "mild-camping" in..Having brought their own provisions with them, or just stocked up at Tesco/Aldi on-route...)
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- maybe he's making a good living from it, whilst annoying the local authorities everywhere
