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Message posted by janey4708/2/2017 at 2:37pm
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I have an 08 Bessacarr e425. the water has all been drained for the winter. However, on Monday I'm off to the Lake District for 5 days. I've checked the weather forecast and its lowest will be 2-3 degrees.
Would be it safe to fill the water tanks? As far as I'm aware it doesn't have the "dump" feature I've read about.
This is my first winter trip and would appreciate advice. Thanks

Message posted by Greg M08/2/2017 at 3:27pm
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Hi,
I personally play it by ear, I leave the tank dry going and see how the night will look weather wise.
We take quite a few large water containers and use those.
I would however test it before you go for leaks and drain it again.
If we are on a site with Showers and washing up facilities I tend to verge on the cautious.
Having said that I have a mate who just does his normal thing and so far has never been caught out.
My own opinion ,I would rather some inconvenience than a burst pipe that is a nightmare to reach.
Whatever you decide, hope you have a good time.
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Message posted by janey4708/2/2017 at 3:59pm
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Thank you Greg. I was fully prepared to use the site facilities but thought it was worth asking more experienced folk.
We're staying CCC Braithwaite Fold so the facilities will be excellent I'm sure.
We will still use the toilet but take a spray bottle I'm hoping that will be ok? only for middle of the night trips as being a certain age it's convenient to use on board ! Lol

Message posted by Greg M08/2/2017 at 4:14pm
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Quote: Originally posted by janey47 on 08/2/2017
Thank you Greg. I was fully prepared to use the site facilities but thought it was worth asking more experienced folk.
We're staying CCC Braithwaite Fold so the facilities will be excellent I'm sure.
We will still use the toilet but take a spray bottle I'm hoping that will be ok? only for middle of the night trips as being a certain age it's convenient to use on board ! Lol


Hi,
We were at Braithwaite Folds last October, Nice facilities there.
As regards the flush, we have pink toilet flush fluid mixed with water in a small spray bottle like you spray plants with .Works fine.
Enjoy your time there.
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Message posted by rogerangie08/2/2017 at 5:07pm
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Large lumps of water take a very long time to freeze. If you are living in the van you will have some heating on to keep warm. Unless your tanks are exposed I really wouldn't worry. Think about -10 for several days (even for the loo) before paniking. See the continetals ski-ing etc. in their vans in the snow. You will be running the taps etc to keep water moving (and having a wee).
Go and enjoy the winter in your van, we have done for years with no problems, it really doesn't get that cold here.

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Message posted by steveiem08/2/2017 at 7:20pm
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When I had a hymer the water storage tanks were within the insulated van ,so were safe to have filled , the grey water tank was not winterized ,so just used to leave it to drain ,under the m/h onto the grass or to a land drain ,the cassette for the toilet was also within the insulated section ,so was also safe to leave in use ,.
My new m/h is not winterized, so all the tanks are hung under the home ,consequently exposed to the outdoor temperatures, I didn't even think to make pthis part of the purchase equation ,as I was just after a particular make of m/h .


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Message posted by Greg M08/2/2017 at 8:19pm
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Quote: Originally posted by rogerangie on 08/2/2017
Large lumps of water take a very long time to freeze. If you are living in the van you will have some heating on to keep warm. Unless your tanks are exposed I really wouldn't worry. Think about -10 for several days (even for the loo) before paniking. See the continetals ski-ing etc. in their vans in the snow. You will be running the taps etc to keep water moving (and having a wee).
Go and enjoy the winter in your van, we have done for years with no problems, it really doesn't get that cold here.


Hi Both,
Whilst I agree you are probably right about a big lump of water to split a tank, I have seen a fully drained down van with split taps in -1.
The reason I seen it,it was mine.
It does not take a lot of water in a pipe to split it.
Add windspeed to actual temperature and it makes a considerable difference.
As I said above, I have a friend just like you,gets away with it every year, and good luck to you and him .
Not sure if you have underslung tanks and if they are insulated.
As I say, good on you, I will stick to being Mr Cautious.


Regards,
Greg

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Message posted by paul+kate s-o-t08/2/2017 at 8:27pm
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Hi greg just wondering what year your 155 is
As ours as the winter pack 2016 model

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Message posted by Greg M08/2/2017 at 9:07pm
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Quote: Originally posted by paul+kate s-o-t on 08/2/2017
Hi greg just wondering what year your 155 is
As ours as the winter pack 2016 model


Hi P & K,
Mine is a 2013, I am sure you know the winter pack is optional as you bought it new.
I bought mine second hand, but it does have lagged water tanks and lagged water pipes.
As Janey never mentioned her van was lagged I stated I would border on the cautious.
The split taps I mentioned,were on a previous van.
Hope you are as pleased with your van as we are with ours.
Regards,
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Message posted by rogerangie09/2/2017 at 6:30pm
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I know I omitted to say my van is a German Burstner of 1996 vintage and still going strong. By winterised just means bits that might freeze in zero tempts.
Regarding the slit taps. I disconnect the taps from the pipes and blow down them..... clears the residue water and no problems.
I would say, it's common sense. It's cold so what would you do at home?. Have a hair drier handy!!

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Message posted by janey4710/2/2017 at 1:30am
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As far as I'm aware there is no lagging. I've looked at the temperatures and the wind chill will be as low as -6 next week. So I'm not risking it!

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Quote: Originally posted by janey47 on 08/2/2017
Thank you Greg. I was fully prepared to use the site facilities but thought it was worth asking more experienced folk.
We're staying CCC Braithwaite Fold so the facilities will be excellent I'm sure.
We will still use the toilet but take a spray bottle I'm hoping that will be ok? only for middle of the night trips as being a certain age it's convenient to use on board ! Lol



Hey Janey, will keep an eye out for you, we shall be there next week!


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