Bought two of these new Kevlar Slim GASBANK Gas bottles and had them filled with LPG to recommended first fill level, they were a perfect size for my Motorhome, I collected them in my car but before I had got halfway home the car was filled with gas fumes. Upon returning to the dealer to have one of the bottles checked for leaks as the valves were shut tightly, it was found to be leaking from the large nut flange that screwed into the bottle, thinking this was fluke occurrence the dealer filled another bottle but found that that one was leaking, he then tried another five bottles and everyone was found to be leaking, so that was six out of seven that were faulty.
So if anyone is thinking of buying these new bottles beware as they could cause a serious problem if they were installed in motorhome or caravan.
Had full refund in the end.
Good job you weren’t avin a fag or you could have ended up at the ISS
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Gasbank is a Polish company, but the cylinders look remarkably similar to Safefill cylinders, so may expect a common manufacturer. Neither Gasbank nor Safefill are likely to be the actual cylinder manufacturer.
I've been using Flogas Gaslight cylinders of a similar construction for a while now, and not had, nor heard of any similar problems, nor have I heard of issues with Safefill cylinders. BP did the Gaslight cylinders for many years before Flogas took over, so the technology is very well proven.
Presumably a batch QA problem in this case rather than an inherent type problem, but that said, the slimline cylinders are I believe quite new to the market!
It does rather highlight a concern I have about transporting cylinders in a car. I do it, when getting refills, and when tent camping, I don't have much choice, but acutely aware that cylinders mounted in leisure vehicles are fitted in lockers with drop out vents, so leaking gas can escape (hopefully!) safely, but in a car you can get a dangerous build up of gas, as no where for it to disperse! The other thing is, most gas lockers are deliberately devoid of any ignition sources, but a car is full of them, such as door switches for interior lights etc, sensor switches for seatbelt buckles and seat occupancy etc, in fact just about every electrically connected device! I reassure myself that incidents are all but unheard of, but it niggles in the back of my mind a little too much!
Lucky you spotted the leak early, and the dealer was vigilant enough to check other stock!
The more I read about issues with LPG, be it hardware or supply related, the more I am pleased to have opted out of carrying and using LPG in my van!
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Can anyone tell me if a MH only has a locker for one gas bottle is it permitted to store a second in the garage? Tethered in some shape or form.
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Permitted - arguably YES, on account of no one is checking, or dictating on transport method beyond it must be upright (Cylinder supplier instruction, and that is to ensure any leakage from the valve is gaseous not liquid - you REALLY don't want to be around a liquid LPG leak - BIG 'boom' when it goes up!). Laws/regulations exist for transporting of LPG by businesses, but not it would seem for private individuals, although Ferries, Chunnel, AND some inland road tunnels have restrictions! Aimed mostly at businesses, but useful info perhaps: https://www.adamsgas.co.uk/2020/06/08/how-to-safely-transport-gas/
Wise - potentially not, but not so different from a cylinder transported in a car boot!
Problem is that LPG is heavier than air, any leakage will 'flow' to the lowest accessible point and accumulate there (that may be your habitable space living area!), it will also build up and displace air (from the floor upwards) if it can't escape, so both a fire/explosion and suffocation risk in extreme circumstances.
All purpose built gas lockers have drop out vents in the lowest part to the outside atmosphere, they are also sealed from habitable areas to stop any leakage entering them, and not to be overlooked, they usually have no ignition sources such as electrical devices (lights etc.) that in the case of a leak could ignite it! The garage area fails (as does a car boot!) on all those points!
In a case of fire/explosion, I wouldn't want to be the one trying to get an insurance company to cover the loss/damage! I'd check for any SPECIFIC clauses about transport of LPG on your insurance policy!
Would you be alone in doing so, absolutely not. When tent camping, we've carried cylinders in car boots and vans, simply because no alternative way of transporting - but been a little paranoid about any whiff of gas! Friends with MHs going abroad have had a UK cylinder in gas locker, and a Continental one in garage, they swap them over once abroad.
If you want a safety backup, you can get gas alarms that will alert you to a gas leak.
If you carry a bottle in the garage compartment I would put a drop out in floor directly below and buy a fixing strap for the sidewall. And don't forget a Gas sticker on outside door to show it is inside.
Quote: Originally posted by birdman101 on 16/7/2024
If you carry a bottle in the garage compartment I would put a drop out in floor directly below and buy a fixing strap for the sidewall. And don't forget a Gas sticker on outside door to show it is inside.
Our previous MH had the external cupboard with vent(s) and 2 blue (old fashioned now - Calor?) gas cylinders, both strapped in place. And, yes, the external sticker as required. Noticed a smell of gas only once, when the pipe had split.
Current MH has an underslung LPG cylinder (like many do now) which we fill at Morrisons, £8 lasts all year because we mostly use the electric hob for cooking & rarely go off grid. It’s to get replaced at a certain age, not old enough yet.
Monty, birdman thanks very much for your informative replies.
Post last edited on 17/07/2024 11:00:47
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