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25/1/2023 at 1:15pm
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Returned from a week in Lanzarote yesterday. Our Passports were scanned but not stamped on arrival. When we left yesterday the passports were neither scanned or stamped.
I asked a Border Control man at Newcastle Airport about it and he said “ If i’m honest I don’t know why that happened, they keep changing the rules”
Previous visits to Prague, Majorca, Tenerife and France all had 2 stamps in passport.
Any one experienced this?
Wonder if this means the 7 days in Lanzarote will not come off my 90 days EU travel.


25/1/2023 at 1:34pm
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Perhaps they are relying on a central database to record the entry and exit dates for each passport scanned?

FK, as it keeps changing as you mentioned!

I like your wishful thinking though!

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25/1/2023 at 1:47pm
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Shows how out of touch I am with travel.
I still have my old black British Passport (exceptionally extended in 1991 to 2001) complete with Visa stickers for Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria dating from 1990.
When it expired, I never bothered to renew it.


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What was the weather like? Im there at the month end - with or without stamps.I got no stamps from Madeira in November.


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Quote: Originally posted by jsparkes201148 on 25/1/2023
Returned from a week in Lanzarote yesterday. Our Passports were scanned but not stamped on arrival. When we left yesterday the passports were neither scanned or stamped.
I asked a Border Control man at Newcastle Airport about it and he said “ If i’m honest I don’t know why that happened, they keep changing the rules”
Previous visits to Prague, Majorca, Tenerife and France all had 2 stamps in passport.
Any one experienced this?
Wonder if this means the 7 days in Lanzarote will not come off my 90 days EU travel.


It could mean you will be refused entry to the EU, as since they scanned you in and didn't scan you out, you are still in Lanzarote.





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25/1/2023 at 4:24pm
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I read that Spain want exempt UK travellers from the 90 day rule, perhaps they have already started.😊
I don’t know if when a passport is scanned, anywhere, whether is records anything or just decides whether you are “wanted” anywhere ir undesirable.


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There was talk that passports were in the future going to just be scanned and all entries and exits would be on a database. This would get rid of the people required to stamp the passports. But I thought end of 2023 was mentioned.

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25/1/2023 at 6:45pm
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Weather was good. 20-25 deg in Playa Blanca.
Madasaman, we watched a couple of other Departure Gates and no passports were scanned, there were scanners at each gate but not being used.
We kept our Boarding cards and luggage bands in case there was a problem.


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Probably just the approach of that customs team. I've entered EU countries and not even had a passport looked at, everyone was just being waved through.

Once the new ETIAS system is introduced stamps will be history, just as they are for US visits due to the ESTA system.

Passport scanned and recorded on entry and exit. With ESTA you can also access your own US travel history.



26/1/2023 at 11:48am
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Quote: Originally posted by daveyjp on 26/1/2023
Probably just the approach of that customs team. I've entered EU countries and not even had a passport looked at, everyone was just being waved through.

Once the new ETIAS system is introduced stamps will be history, just as they are for US visits due to the ESTA system.

Passport scanned and recorded on entry and exit. With ESTA you can also access your own US travel history.





I read in the newspaper that the EU system is being delayed until towards the end of the 2023 after this year's peak holiday season.

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26/1/2023 at 11:53am
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Mate of mine owns (and has done for past 6 months) a villa in southern Spain, and is in the process of moving there (from UK) permanently, he pops out there for a week or so every few weeks to sort stuff and do general upkeep. He is quite pedantic that his 'in' and 'out' stamps are in order and none missed, as he points out he doesn't want to get stopped on the way in by some jobsworth who decides that he's exceeded his 90 days limit and refuse him entry and whatever other consequences. He's not sure what electronic records are kept at the moment and how he could prove he's not 'illegal' by any other means. I think the worse case is probably a single Entry/Exit stamp but no corresponding Entry/Exit stamp that defines your stay time!

The new EES (Entry-Exit System) electronic passport control system replacing rubber stamping passport pages was supposed to have been in operation in 2020, but has been delayed a number of times, it was again due to start in May 2023, but has been delayed yet again to a non-specific 'end of 2023' in the latest news I've seen.

https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-and-visa/smart-borders/entry-exit-system_en

Not sure I wan't to be one of the first to be using THAT system, they've been developing it for a great many years, and it's now heading for 4 years behind initial implementation target date, so the mind boggles at how chaotic it'll be in it's first use, when all the bugs appear and staff are unfamiliar with the system! Could make the Brexit travel chaos look like a picnic!


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I was in Malaga last week, Passport stamped both in and out temp was only about 16 windy and raining on the Tuesday rising to around 19 and sunny when we left on the friday, still it was better than the snow we had at home.

It was a work conference for 4 days & i got covid, so cant say i'm too chuffed

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Oh no! Hope you feel better soon Bessie!

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I think you do need to ensure yourself that your passports are stamped. Example day trip to France in Dec I realised afterwards that our passports had not been stamped by French immigration on our return to Calais port so officially we had not left France ?

We did another day trip recently but no mention of anything by French immigration in Dover on way out & passports were this time stamped on way back at Calais. Important as we now need 90 clear days before 90 day summer trip to France.

In other news both ETIAS & biometric scans have been put back again. With the volume of traffic at Dover system sounds unworkable.

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Cheers thanks Pixie, Feeling a lot better now but still testing positive.

I think a few people from our conference actually caught it

Bessie


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The chip in the passport counts you in & counts you back out, if it’s scanned & it matches your facial scan.
I didn’t get a passport stamp coming into NZ this time and haven’t done since 2016, but the airport process is different from the ferry process.

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