Quote: Originally posted by solar1952 on 13/6/2015
Went to the my mother's bank the other day to register the power of attorney due to dementia and they wouldn't accept the photo licence on it's own. Luckily I had the green paper part as well and they said they have no plans to change. So be warned, put the paper part away. You never know when you might need it no matter what DVLA say.
To be fair, I'm planning on keeping hold of mine (paper counterpart) "Just in case"... and your example proves that may be a good idea (It's not exactly an inconvenience!)
Having said that, however, the theory is that they have no right to demand to see it, as it is no longer a legal document, is not required by DVLA (The issuing authority), nor, I presume, the police, the government, or any other governing body of this land. As of last Monday, the document they are asking for doesn't even exist!
When will the UK government accept that we're in the 21st century? German licences have been exclusively on a card for years with penalties etc. stored on them. All traffic police, hire compaies, etc. can 'read' the card using scanners.
I have no current pictorial ID; only an expired British Visitor's Passport from 1991; and a long-held disabled parking "Blue Badge", bearing a photo from early 2000s.
There is certainly no legal requirement to own a current passport, photocard driving licence, or any photo ID.
If any organisation finds it difficult to accept ID sans photo; that is their failing, not ours.
Note that to qualify for a free photocard replacement licence; a driver must change name, address, or vehicle group entitlement.
Otherwise, one must pay for passport-style photos, and a £20 fee: that's a lot of money for nothing!
I think I'm right in saying that the bank I refer to is owned by us through the bail outs. The thing is that the bank has no plans not to ask for the paper. But perversely the bank is technically a government agency and therefore at odds with itself. And I used to laugh at paranoia jokes.
I've just received my new licence with instructions to "Destroy the counterpart" after 8th June as it is no longer a legal document. If the bank ask for it to be produced, refer them to DVLA. (Or tell 'em to get knotted! )
------------- Some days you are the dog,
some days you are the tree.
I think I would be going mad with the Bank Manager, Kimmie!
It's your account, your money and your choice. Tell him that after 40 years, if they don't know you now, they never will, so you're going to use another bank.
(Unless they think you're the money laundering type!)
------------- Some days you are the dog,
some days you are the tree.
Unfortunately my mother has Alzheimer's and we need to access her money to pay for her care. My father is paying all the bills at the moment from the funds that he needs to pay for his care. The only way we can sort the problem is to jump through the bank's hoops, however stupid. We are also trying to separate a joint account as my mother is not competent to sign anything meaning my father can't access his own money in the joint account. Don't ask but is takes two signatures on the account to do anything except pay money in. We also have another 2 banks to deal with once this one has been sorted. My main point is, DO NOT pay any attention to instructions to dispose of the green paper part of your license.
None of the major banks that I have looked at will accept a licence counterpart as proof of identity.
There are lots of things they will accept there should be no difficulty producing something else.
saxo1
Quote: Originally posted by Bridgelayer on 15/6/2015I think I would be going mad with the Bank Manager, Kimmie!
It's your account, your money and your choice. Tell him that after 40 years, if they don't know you now, they never will, so you're going to use another bank.
(Unless they think you're the money laundering type!)
Ha ha. Hubby got no money to launder. Would just make it easier if I was not around for anything.
And it's me that sorts all the bills, hence my name is on them. He doesn't get any bills except an unused credit card and a bank account which pays his phone bill. He would be stuffed for a credit rating.
Could you please explain that to our local Lloyds Bank. I took along the rates bill from the council, in my name, with my address etc etc. No, they wanted the green copy from the driving license. I could wait until news of the 21st century filters down to our local branch or I could get on with sorting my mother's affairs so that her care home can be paid the £700 a week it costs. There is no point in standing on ceremony and mother forced to leave her care home. When all this started I rang Lloyds main number and asked to be transferred to my mother's branch. Not a problem, eventually. They transferred me to the wrong branch but it started with the right first letter. Fair attempt. They transferred me to the right branch and said to contact my local branch. They couldn't transfer me so back to head office. They said they couldn't get an answer from our local branch but would leave a message. Phone rings, a Lloyds branch 120 miles away had received the message. They couldn't transfer me back so head office again. They put me through to my local branch who answered the phone, got an appointment and then a phone call from them to say they'd rcvd a message to ring me. That was the message answered from 120 miles away as well. Today I managed to get an appointment to see them in two weeks time. Hopefully the care home aren't too worried about money. Without the green copy I wouldn't have got this far no matter what the banks websites say. To get this sorted I will happily wear a tutu and flippers, if they want a green copy there is no sense in arguing. In their defense Lloyds said that it was their computer, it wants the box for the green copy ticked, they can't tick it if they haven't seen it and therefore no progress.
RRR's and Elbow springs to mind. They can access yoyr "green Part " on-line with your permission. Refer them to the web address and educate themselves.
------------- Some days you are the dog,
some days you are the tree.
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