The problem is you are comparing to those with specialised skills..............
What makes you think Payroll is not a specialised skill??? With all the legislation involved in payroll these days, the days of just looking up the tax tables and licking NI stamps have long gone. Some of us even have degrees in Payroll Management!!!
Unfortunately i dont decide what the going rate is for each skill set but it seems that an engineer is paid more for a reason.
Im not in anyway knocking payroll workers,their education or skills just observing the facts.
I don't think we were discussing who gets paid how much and whether that is justified. The issue I took up was the implication in your post that payroll is not a specialised field, not whether it is more or less specialised than other sectors.
The op is talking about who gets paid what and whether it is justified.
If you honestly believe that payroll is more specialised in this instance, then explain why the engineers at her firm have had payrises and the op hasnt ?
The op's firm obviously think the op is replaceable but the engineers are not so they give payrises to retain them.
This in itself suggests more specialised skillsets.
Also where does it state the op has qualifications in payroll ? Yep, nowhere, it just says the op does the wages.
This is more about your interpretation of my post as some sort of put down, which it wasnt, as i have already stated before.
We haven't had a pay rise for 3 years now and our car and mileage allowances haven't gone up for over 5 years (in fact, for those with bigger cars it's gone down and there's talk that they may have to cut it to make savings next year).
The pressure to make savings means that salary scales for new staff have been downgraded, so a job that would have been a promotion is now the same money, or less. It is also very uncomfortable, when a new colleague is doing the same work, and doing it very well, and they know you're on £2.5k a year more than they'll ever earn in the same job.
We get annoyed because admin staff haven't been subjected to the same changes, but it's the frontline staff that bring in the money to pay their wages.
what's a car and mileage allowance? never had any of those. had to buy my own car and run out of the salary
Obvious question is then: Do you have to use your own car to do your job and travel about between clients.
obvious answer - yes had to travel to county hall for meetings - had to travel to other schools for meetings had to travel to management centre for courses had to visit parents at home sometimes still no car had to go back for governor meetings had to go back for parent evenings still no car and no I am not moaning I did it and enjoyed it but still no car
Teacher? OH claims mileage for meetings and courses. Parents evenings and governors she's there anyway. Needs car to get to work but it's not required. A few walk to school.
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Quote: Originally posted by roy c on 20/6/2012
As prices rise we all need pay rises, no matter engineer, pay rolls, shop floor, so our standard of living for our families doesn't fall.
I totally agree, ive not had a payrise either.I make up for it by earning money online trading forex.3 years ago i realised i needed another way of earning rather than relying on an employer so i set about learning the skills i needed to make this happen.
obvious answer - yes had to travel to county hall for meetings - had to travel to other schools for meetings had to travel to management centre for courses had to visit parents at home sometimes still no car had to go back for governor meetings had to go back for parent evenings still no car and no I am not moaning I did it and enjoyed it but still no car
I think that sort of work travel is a bit different - more casual (which is why there are different methods of reimbursing people in some jobs, according to whether they are "essential" or "casual" car users.
We do between 400 and 1,000 miles a month visiting people at home, and are contractually obliged to provide a car to do the job. It's a rural area, so using public transport is not an option. That's why we get the £900 a year, it's to offset some of the costs of running a car. It's taxable though, so really only £720 net (probably NI-able too, so knock off another 12 or13% and it comes down to about £650 - just about covered the tax, insurance and tyres last year!)
The 40p a mile is below the maximum permitted by HMRC for use of a private car for work purposes. You might be able to claim tax relief on 45p a mile, if you have to do it for your job but your employer doesn't pay mileage.
Ours is annually, based on the results of your annual review. At the review, you are rated 1-5, over 5 areas. If you average is 4 or 5, you get a payrise, if it isnt, you dont.
Totally based on ability, nowt more.
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Keep your chin up,after all it is regular money coming in which is a massive bonus,I am sure your boss will give you a pay rise one day.
Here is my job,I am self employed,I have a small shop on a very well known internet site selling jewellery I have purchased from wholesaler,work 3 mornings a week,6.15am until 9.30am on my parents farm for £20 a week,a free cooked breakfast and a pint of milk each time I work,it's not how much you earn,we get by,
"I believe a pay rise has to be earned, and too many employee's just expect it as their right.
I am not saying the OP doesn't deserve one, more in general people expect things for nothing these days. "
totally agree.
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