Quote: Originally posted by Tigermouse on 13/4/2014
Quote: Originally posted by daveyjp on 11/4/2014
I don't know the OPs age, but state school holidays haven't changed much in 40-50 years.
Oh but they have, at least round here anyway, and I'm not THAT old.
Our school day started at 8.45am and finished at 4pm every day - now they finish at 3.15 and 3pm on Friday. Our half term holidays were just three days, with a week at the end of term - now it's a week and a day at half term and two weeks and a day at the end of term. The long summer holiday started towards the end of July for exactly six weeks - now it depends on when the date of the old school year ends and the new one begins in September, meaning that some years they get seven weeks and a day.
I worked in a secondary school for eleven years but the continued lack of discipline and respect gradually turned a job I loved into one I hated, and the best day of my adult life was when I handed in my resignation and walked out of the door for the last time three years ago.
Yo u seem to be mixing up two different things. The school day has changed. However the time a child is actually taught still stays the same - a minimum of 15 hours a week. Break/lunch/acts of worship/gaps between lesson have altered to make it seem as though the school day has changed.
Then you have the holidays. Days taught havebeen 190 days for generations - ever since I was at school, and throughout my teaching career and still contin uing today. There are 5 extra days for inservice which used to be holidays for staff, but now just for the kids
The timing of the start and finish of a holiday will alter annually but never the number of days actually taught.
I know it's a long time since I was at school but I started school at 9.00am and finished at 4.00pm with one hour for lunch. There was a break in the morning for 15 minutes and the same again in the afternoon. There were no breaks between lessons...we went straight from one lesson to another all day long. That works out at 5.5 hours a day or 27.5 hours a week of tuition.
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 17/4/2014I know it's a long time since I was at school but I started school at 9.00am and finished at 4.00pm with one hour for lunch. There was a break in the morning for 15 minutes and the same again in the afternoon. There were no breaks between lessons...we went straight from one lesson to another all day long. That works out at 5.5 hours a day or 27.5 hours a week of tuition.
It was the same for me except we started at 8.45 am and had no afternoon break as we only had three lessons as opposed to four in the mornings. I can remember my school day exactly -
Which, by my reckoning, makes a total of 7 hours 15 mins in school and 5 hours of lesson time, making a weekly total of 25 hours. As for 'inset days' 'staff training days' or whatever else you want to call them now, tagged onto the various holidays, there was no such thing back then - as I said before, half term was only three days, not the week-and-a-day they have now. My mum often said it was a stupid idea for us to go back on a Thursday just for two days.
Now I know that schools in different parts of the country have different holidays and possibly different start/finishing times to the school day but having recently spent eleven years working in a local secondary school I know there's a very definite difference to the holidays and the structure of the school days compared to when I was at school, so please ldpdmp don't try to tell me I'm wrong. It may be quite a while since I was there but I have a bloody good memory!
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Quote: Originally posted by Tigermouse on 17/4/2014
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 17/4/2014I know it's a long time since I was at school but I started school at 9.00am and finished at 4.00pm with one hour for lunch. There was a break in the morning for 15 minutes and the same again in the afternoon. There were no breaks between lessons...we went straight from one lesson to another all day long. That works out at 5.5 hours a day or 27.5 hours a week of tuition.
It was the same for me except we started at 8.45 am and had no afternoon break as we only had three lessons as opposed to four in the mornings. I can remember my school day exactly -
Which, by my reckoning, makes a total of 7 hours 15 mins in school and 5 hours of lesson time, making a weekly total of 25 hours. As for 'inset days' 'staff training days' or whatever else you want to call them now, tagged onto the various holidays, there was no such thing back then - as I said before, half term was only three days, not the week-and-a-day they have now. My mum often said it was a stupid idea for us to go back on a Thursday just for two days.
Now I know that schools in different parts of the country have different holidays and possibly different start/finishing times to the school day but having recently spent eleven years working in a local secondary school I know there's a very definite difference to the holidays and the structure of the school days compared to when I was at school, so please ldpdmp don't try to tell me I'm wrong. It may be quite a while since I was there but I have a bloody good memory!
Post last edited on 17/04/2014 02:14:58
the actual teaching time in your figures = 5 hours . I am very surprised to see 40 min and 50 min lessons were used. Seems a very unusual way to create a timetable.
Well, that's exactly how it was, lessons being shorter in the afternoons because we had such a long lunch break - and we had a proper sit-down cooked meal every day with a set menu. The school where I recently worked has a canteen system with umpteen choices, the lunch break was 50 minutes when I first went there but was reduced to 40 three years before I left.
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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 17/4/2014
I am very surprised to see 40 min and 50 min lessons were used. Seems a very unusual way to create a timetable.
All the lessons at my grammar school were based on 40 minutes, although we did have a lot of double periods, mainly English and Maths.
Timetable was very similar to Tigermouse's - start at 08.45 with registration and assembly. Periods started at 09.10, 09.50 and 10.30 - break between 11.10 and 11.30, then 2 periods until 12.50. Lunch between 12.50 and 14.00, followed by 3 periods until finishing at 16.00.
All the lessons at my grammar school were based on 40 minutes, although we did have a lot of double periods, mainly English and Maths. Timetable was very similar to Tigermouse's - start at 08.45 with registration and assembly. Periods started at 09.10, 09.50 and 10.30 - break between 11.10 and 11.30, then 2 periods until 12.50. Lunch between 12.50 and 14.00, followed by 3 periods until finishing at 16.00.
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Topic: School Holidays
