Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 20/1/2019
Quite coincidentally, on my walk across the park this morning I witnessed a small terrier running rings around a woman who had a larger dog on a lead. The larger dog was clearly getting upset and growling at the little dog. The owner could do nothing but stand there waiting for the owner of the terrier to catch it and get it under control and back on it's lead. The terrier was taking no notice of it's owner at all.
We have had this happen to us, with a rescue dog who was learning to walk on a lead and ignore other dogs. It’s not helpful, when all you can do is hold onto your own dog on its lead until the other dog gets fed up or its owner finally manages to get hold of it. I wish some other dog owners would realise that people generally have their dogs on a lead for a reason and keep them on a lead or under close control as they go past.
Me and my spaniel got attacked and bitten last week in the park. I'd called her over and put her on the lead cos I could see she didnt like the look of this dog. It was a chunky big dog - looking on the internet I think it was an Akita - they're known for being unpredictable and attacking other dogs but it was running around in the park unleashed. My dog has now taken to barking at big pointy eared dogs- absolute nightmare- I'm furious!!
Can I also caution those of you who think that it is ok to walk through areas with sheep with their dogs off the lead - cos they believe their dogs are really well behaved and don't chase sheep. It only takes one lapse of training or a dog not behaving as you expect it and your dog moving towards the livestock for a farmer to decide its hassling the sheep and for the farmer to shoot your dog.
100s of dogs get shot by farmers every year in Cumbria yet I see people all the time on the fells with dogs off the lead near sheep - it's really not worth the risk - it's not you who suffers the consequence for you arrogance it's the dog.
Totally agree with Mike.
Our lab was a rescue and we trained him well but he was stuck in his ways regarding off the lead. He would be on an extending lead but never off it. As he got blind and older he got nervous and our wee terrier got quite protective with other dogs. We always kept our eyes open for other dogs and would bring them to heel and avoid other walkers. Now the wee one is on her own and doesn't care about other dogs. She doesn't have to protect the big lad anymore. Both were trained with a mix of treats and firm words.
Quote: Originally posted by Katieep on 06/2/2020
Can I also caution those of you who think that it is ok to walk through areas with sheep with their dogs off the lead - cos they believe their dogs are really well behaved and don't chase sheep. It only takes one lapse of training or a dog not behaving as you expect it and your dog moving towards the livestock for a farmer to decide its hassling the sheep and for the farmer to shoot your dog.
100s of dogs get shot by farmers every year in Cumbria yet I see people all the time on the fells with dogs off the lead near sheep - it's really not worth the risk - it's not you who suffers the consequence for you arrogance it's the dog.
Absolutely. So many ignorant/stupid owners out there, either dont think it will happen to them (or their dog), or dont even think at all.
I will never forget the time i was at my girlfriends house (now wife), when there was such a commotion as her dad burst through the door ranting and raving, heading straight for the back of the telly - where he kept his shotguns! Then, racing out again shouting something along the lines of...''i'll get the b'stard this time!''
Half an hour later he was back, to enroll her brother to help him drag an alsation back from the fields to bury it. This dog had had three or four of his lambs over a fortnight. Not any more. The brother-in-law has since taken over the 'farmers' mantle in the family, and has himself shot a number of dogs since.
I hillwalk every weekend. Never take dogs, especially this time of year for obvious reasons I do know one woman whose dog was shot in her driveway. The farmer didn't like her family, her dog was known for being submissive and always rolling on her back when with someone. The dog was shot in her stomach.
Dogs need responsible owners but some farmers are complete batards
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 17/1/2019
I didn't see the program but don't agree either with painful methods of training dogs. I would never even use a collar and lead on a dog, dragging it around by it's neck. I use a harness which is designed to stop a dog bolting by lifting it's front legs off the ground if it does.
On the other side of the coin though, a dog owner has to be the leader of the pack and you don't see the alpha male and female offering their pack titbit treats to behave...they have far more violent and painful methods than that.
Bob you do not need to be leader of the pack. That theory was debunked by the writer many years ago. I can assure you no dog want to be alpha in a house, they get fed, get walked have a warm place to sleep without needing to lift a paw. That is why the wolves ended up as the dogs we have today, they know a good deal.
I totally disagree with the comment , it all depends on the dogs character and personality, with dominant dogs you have to to be the leader and seen as the leader. The training is adapted to the dogs character and personality. Working with a dog which is submissive will be different to one which is dominant. Treating all the same is where the problem lies. Thankfully my trainer was a top notch animal/dog behaviourist. My dog would be totally different if he had different owners and trainer. He was not food orientated, titbits would have an negative impact and encourage bad behaviour.
He had to Fed last, pretend to eat some of his, before giving him it. Going through door, he had to be last, not allowed on furniture, toys were ours, we decided when he could have them. Both voice and hand signal trained. Give him an inch he would he would a take mile. Couldn't use same techniques to go back on the lead, he would learn then on how to avoid. One thing he hated was being ignored. That worked the best😂😂
By the way he was well stimulated mentally, never board, obviously we had to watch his exercise when he was younger. Fine balancing act not creating problems during growth over doing causes issues.
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Topic: Dogs Behaving Very Badly
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