There has been loads of reports around this game changing BEV over the last couple of years, but the car has now been officially launched at the Frankfurt Motor Show last week.
Production starts in November this year, with delivery to customers expected in early summer 2020.
VW has struck a deal with Tesco to install 2,500 charging stalls at 600 UK Tesco stores, of course there are loads of other CCS and level 2 charging places that you can also use, not to mention at home as well if you can.
The Tesco chargers will be free for 7kw charging, so not to be confused with the likes of 100Kw rapid chargers, which the VW ID.3 can also use at a cost.
The only downside to this latest BEV is that it has not been type approved for towing, which is a little crazy as there is no reason why it could not tow up to a 750kg none braked trailer, or even say 900kg braked unit.
Although the ID.3 will have some kind of rear bumper attachment for use with a bicycle carrier.
It's not ideal, and VW have messed up a little by not having the vehicle type approved for towing, even if the capacity was to be so limited.
Great, but do you get Clubcard points when you hook up? if no then I won't bother.
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Yep but it will be funny to see what happens when the fossil car drivers, think the charging bays are regular car park spaces, of course there will be signage but most fossil car drivers won’t take a blind bit of notice about that.
For the last 10 years VW have managed to build some terrible diesel or petrol engines, the current 1.5 tsi is a compete mess and they can't fix the problems,
With such a track record its a brave person who puts faith in their electric offering.
Well lucky for VW there is only one moving component in an electric motor, compared to the hundreds in a Petrol or Diesel engine.
The drive train is also more simplistic on a BEV.
The only thing I can see them screwing up on is the battery tech, although it appears that SK are looking after that, so all could be good.
What does annoy me is that BEV makers offer differing capacity of batteries for the same model.
Imagine if when you go to buy a fossil car they ask you, would you like a 10 gallon fuel tank or 5 gallon fuel tank sir.
Even worse still you may opt for the 45Kw battery car, only to learn that the battery is in actual fact 77kw, it’s just that they have electronically locked down the battery for the cheaper model car.
VW will be offering three battery versions for the ID.3, which will give 200 miles range for the cheapest and 340 miles for the dearest, what’s the point just make one version, the largest one of course.
Any way it is what it is, and all the electric car makers seem to be at the same daft game.
Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 15/9/2019
Yep but it will be funny to see what happens when the fossil car drivers, think the charging bays are regular car park spaces, of course there will be signage but most fossil car drivers won’t take a blind bit of notice about that.
It would have never entered my mind, but now you have posted this!
A bit like a Vegan trying to preach........I eat more meat.
Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 15/9/2019
Yep but it will be funny to see what happens when the fossil car drivers, think the charging bays are regular car park spaces, of course there will be signage but most fossil car drivers won’t take a blind bit of notice about that.
But you are a fossil company car driver n' est ce pas?
I bet the carbon footprint for my 12 year old Saab is less than a new hybrid or electric car!
Our evil planet destroying awd euro 6 Santa Fe tows beautifully thanks!
Might consider a hybrid to replace it, apparantly new Toyota RAV is a hybrid and tows well with plug in option to be along soon.
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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 15/9/2019
Yep I am a company car fossil fuel driver, 3 pot 1.5lt Diesel 19 Plate Ford Focus as it happens, although the car is due for change April 2020.
So what I get next is anyone's guess as we don't get a choice.
Doing 30k business miles each year, and with over 100 cars in the fleet, going electric is going to save a shed load of money.
So it will interesting to see which way the firm goes.
I'm not convinced the business case is there yet.
Your company probably pays around £11k for a 20k focus once you allow for fleet discount and lack of VAT.
Add in 100k miles worth of fuel at around £12k and you're still well short of the cost of a new BEV with decent range which will suffer significant depreciation due to battery efficiency at 100k mile and probably 1000 charges later.
Electricity also isn't free, approx £4k of 100k miles assuming you only charge at domestic rates. It could cost double that using for profit fast chargers.
Where they make most sense currently is cities with congestion or pollution charging which exept BEV's.
When they do mileage on a electric car,,it isn't done on the roads,they say 1kw of battery will do say 20 miles,but will it do it in the real world with lights,heater,air con,stop startetc.do anybody get the milage claims on petrol or diesel car,you don't,
Petrol and diesel cars already think the charging point bays are for normal cars. Last year, two weeks before Christmas in my local Tesco with 4 x free to use pod point spaces, 3 were occupied by conventional cars. I was plugging in my plug in hybrid when the driver of the car next to me asked what I was doing. I explained that I was plugging in my electric car and that he was parked in an electric car charging space. He was an oap and said that he thought the electric charging point was a parking meter! After he moved his car, I went into the shop and reported the other offending 2 cars to customer services, an announcement was made asking the drivers to move their cars. It is frustrating on arriving at a supermarket with charge points to discover they are all in use or filled with non plug in cars. And guess what, as the number of plug in cars increases, unless the number of charging points increases significantly, things can only get worse.
Quote: Originally posted by RK1234 on 16/9/2019
Petrol and diesel cars already think the charging point bays are for normal cars. Last year, two weeks before Christmas in my local Tesco with 4 x free to use pod point spaces, 3 were occupied by conventional cars. I was plugging in my plug in hybrid when the driver of the car next to me asked what I was doing. I explained that I was plugging in my electric car and that he was parked in an electric car charging space. He was an oap and said that he thought the electric charging point was a parking meter! After he moved his car, I went into the shop and reported the other offending 2 cars to customer services, an announcement was made asking the drivers to move their cars. It is frustrating on arriving at a supermarket with charge points to discover they are all in use or filled with non plug in cars. And guess what, as the number of plug in cars increases, unless the number of charging points increases significantly, things can only get worse.
Well best not to give yourself a bad day about it , just go get yourself a nice big diesel car and problem solved.
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Quote: Originally posted by daveyjp on 15/9/2019
For the last 10 years VW have managed to build some terrible diesel or petrol engines, the current 1.5 tsi is a compete mess and they can't fix the problems,
With such a track record its a brave person who puts faith in their electric offering.
well said when will everyone realise this
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