I wonder if there have been any investigations into whether the virus could be present in the vapour expelled by vapers. The reason I am curious is because this morning I was walking along the pavement (on my way to the surgery to post a prescription) and a car passed me with an open window and I got a face full of vapour cloud that came out of the window. I saw the cloud pouring out of the window but it was too late to do anything about it.
If vapour cloud can hang in the air like that surely the virus could be within it
Scientists claim - though it hasn't really been studied properly - that the virus will not spread in vape clouds, unless the user happens to cough at the same time as they exhale.
Quote: Originally posted by Hedgehugger on 04/5/2020
Scientists claim - though it hasn't really been studied properly - that the virus will not spread in vape clouds, unless the user happens to cough at the same time as they exhale.
That's a relief, thank you. I didn't hear a cough before the cloud
I read recently that while a high proportion of French people smoke, only a small number ended up in hospital with Coronavirus. There was some thought that the nicotine provided some sort of protection, but of course, smoking carried its own risks.
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Quote: Originally posted by Capt Lightning on 04/5/2020
I read recently that while a high proportion of French people smoke, only a small number ended up in hospital with Coronavirus. There was some thought that the nicotine provided some sort of protection, but of course, smoking carried its own risks.
Theres no nicotine in vape is there?
I've already broached this elsewhere. Obviously, the smokers defended it vigorously (no surprise there), and saying its safe (of course, Doctor). As surely this has been down the vapers lungs, done a circuit or two, then blown out into the air, i cant see how it can be 100% 'safe' for folk who get a lungful, second hand.
Quote: Originally posted by Capt Lightning on 04/5/2020
I read recently that while a high proportion of French people smoke, only a small number ended up in hospital with Coronavirus. There was some thought that the nicotine provided some sort of protection, but of course, smoking carried its own risks.
Theres no nicotine in vape is there?
I've already broached this elsewhere. Obviously, the smokers defended it vigorously (no surprise there), and saying its safe (of course, Doctor). As surely this has been down the vapers lungs, done a circuit or two, then blown out into the air, i cant see how it can be 100% 'safe' for folk who get a lungful, second hand.
Yes, there is Nicotine in Vape but that's about all as Vape doesn't contain other harmful chemicals such as tar that is found in cigarettes. The tar is a brown sticky substance that creates a film inside the lungs which theoretically could be a barrier against the coronavirus but the authorities wouldn't want to promote this in any way because they try to encourage people to give up. Yes, fags can kill you but I know a few that are still smoking in their 80's and still living and others that are none smokers and contracted Covid-19 and died in hospital.
During my working years I worked in an engineering factory and one particular year they were several workers off sick with bad colds or flu when a workmate said.... "Have you noticed that all the ones off sick are all non smokers". Strangely enough it was absolutely true so even though cigarettes can be harmful in one way they can be a source of protection in another.
Very interesting and in fact most of my minor health ailments seemed to start shortly after I stopped smoking as did my wife's diabetes. Interesting as well that when I was a smoker I rarely caught a cold but have had a couple of humdingers since packing up. I used to joke that my lungs were protected by a layer of tar and that may not now be far from the truth.
The vapour from vaping does contain nicotine however, I think the face full I received this morning may not have been blown out of the vapers lungs as it was a large white cloud, so that was probably directly from the e-cig rather than after being inhaled.
I note from the video that they are experimenting with nicotine patches to see if they have any effect on the virus but my thoughts are that it could be the tar bunging up the lungs and preventing access to the virus.
I get the impression... but stand to be corrected... that these ridiculous and offensive massive plumes are taken (only) into the mouth, then blown straight out again?
I "take mine down properly", (I'm still addicted to nicotine when all said and done... I use 18mg nicotine strength) and get very... VERY... little vapour cloud when exhaling.
I appreciate though, that these things are affected by the viscosity of the liquid, and indeed the voltage/battery strength used.
Next time you see one of these massive plumes, watch them "take their next drag"... it appears to escape (the mouth) almost immediately, and doesn't seem to go deep enough, or stay in long enough, to be savoured!
Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 06/5/2020
I get the impression... but stand to be corrected... that these ridiculous and offensive massive plumes are taken (only) into the mouth, then blown straight out again?
I "take mine down properly", (I'm still addicted to nicotine when all said and done... I use 18mg nicotine strength) and get very... VERY... little vapour cloud when exhaling.
I appreciate though, that these things are affected by the viscosity of the liquid, and indeed the voltage/battery strength used.
Next time you see one of these massive plumes, watch them "take their next drag"... it appears to escape (the mouth) almost immediately, and doesn't seem to go deep enough, or stay in long enough, to be savoured!
Like I say... I could be wrong!
Post last edited on 06/05/2020 09:27:23
I think that is right. I have previously seen the chap who passed me in his car walking along the road vaping and it gives a new meaning to 'having one's head in the clouds'
One thing that concerned me though is if a cloud of vapour can hang around in the air long enough for someone else to walk into several seconds later, could a cough or sneeze containing the virus hang around just as long and the two metre distance just isn't far enough?
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 06/5/2020
I think that is right. I have previously seen the chap who passed me in his car walking along the road vaping and it gives a new meaning to 'having one's head in the clouds'
One thing that concerned me though is if a cloud of vapour can hang around in the air long enough for someone else to walk into several seconds later, could a cough or sneeze containing the virus hang around just as long and the two metre distance just isn't far enough?
Post last edited on 06/05/2020 10:11:03
Now this one, I most certainly could be wrong!
However, my understanding is that vape is all light and fluffy! It floats. It rises. Just like Dream Topping/Instant Whip/Maltesers, it is literally lighter than air!
I believe... in this instance... the virus is attached to minuscule droplets, (from coughing/sneezing, as opposed to merely breathing out) which in theory are heavier (than vape), and do... albeit slowly I presume?... eventually drop and/or land on/cling to a surface (Someone else/table/ground etc).
Hence the talk now of using face masks to reduce the velocity and subsequent spread of said deadly droplets (But does virtually nothing to protect the wearer from incoming virus from others, of course!)
Seriously though... I urge you... Don't quote me on that!
So as Mucker seems to be a part of SAGE. Can I ask, if someone walking in front of me breaks wind, and it's a wet one, and I smell it, can covid 19 live in the aroma?
The issue with vape machines is how few users know they are (mostly) adjustable to limit the amount of vapour to suit the individual user's needs. Those who take the vapour right down can adjust to get a larger amount of vapour per puff, while those who only take a mouthful can get less. Of course the people supplying the machines have little interest in telling people this because a machine set to maximum (as they seem to be from the factory) uses more vape fluid so more profits for manufacturer and retailer. Of course the cheapest machines may not be adjustable but most are.
Quote: Originally posted by jenchris40 on 06/5/2020
The issue with vape machines is how few users know they are (mostly) adjustable to limit the amount of vapour to suit the individual user's needs. Those who take the vapour right down can adjust to get a larger amount of vapour per puff, while those who only take a mouthful can get less. Of course the people supplying the machines have little interest in telling people this because a machine set to maximum (as they seem to be from the factory) uses more vape fluid so more profits for manufacturer and retailer. Of course the cheapest machines may not be adjustable but most are.
I prefer the smaller "pen" type, and although I have a few different sizes (1100/1300/1600 mAh) they aren't adjustable.
I think the bigger/bulkier ones are more likely to be adjustable. A couple of mates have them, and are forever moaning they've been (accidentally) adjusted in their pockets, and burn out the atomiser!
Quote: Originally posted by geoffprinter on 06/5/2020
So as Mucker seems to be a part of SAGE. Can I ask, if someone walking in front of me breaks wind, and it's a wet one, and I smell it, can covid 19 live in the aroma?
Yeah right... "It wasn't me, it was that bloke in front"!
When are you ever going to stand up and take some responsibility for your own actions!
I've wondered the same thing about vape clouds hanging around, especially since I see vast plumes when I'm out. I've been using vapes for a while and always keep to a lower vapor setting and less ""fog."" It makes me feel like I'm being more considerate to others around me. Sometimes, people don't know if their device settings can be adjusted.
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