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Message posted by marg628/7/2020 at 12:25pm
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leave your nose exposed???? no point in wearing it then mrs bonce

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Quote: Originally posted by marg6 on 28/7/2020
leave your nose exposed???? no point in wearing it then mrs bonce



I didn't say I was going to!

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You need the 'anatomical' reusable masks, about a fiver. I'm making them for my charity's catalogue. They have 3 layers, the innermost one is a filter pocket, so you can insert a filter of some sort if necessary.

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Took my Mum shopping this morning to Home Bargains. There was no queue outside and the shop was very busy. Everyone was wearing face coverings, trouble is my Mum walked past a friend of hers who she's known for over 40 years as she didn't recognise her with her mask on. Luckily my Mum's friend realised it was her so they had a little chat.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 14/7/2020
Wearing masks, another case of, horse bolted then gate shut.


Not at all, the wearing of them has only been brought about because of people's behaviour and as an extra safety measure due to others being lifted such as the 2m rule being reduced to 1m+ etc.



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The wearing of face coverings has been compulsary on public transport for a while now so it was great to see a couple refused entry to a train because they wasn't wearing masks - they later returned with masks so just forgot I reckon. Another chap was refused entry to the same train but then quickly boarded the same train as us. One of the station staff noticed him on the train without a mask so phoned the driver who kicked him off at the next station!

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Not sure how that is supposed to work in this area. There's usually only the driver on the train, I used to be one of them, and nearly all the stations are unmanned after 2pm. Most of them are completely unmanned on Sundays, and often on Saturdays too.


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Quote: Originally posted by Campermark71 on 28/7/2020
Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 14/7/2020
Wearing masks, another case of, horse bolted then gate shut.


Not at all, the wearing of them has only been brought about because of people's behaviour and as an extra safety measure due to others being lifted such as the 2m rule being reduced to 1m+ etc.



Just to clarify...the 2 metre rule still applies everywhere except when it is impossible like on public transport or in certain working environments etc. Even 2 metres isn't far enough but reduces the risk greatly...1 metre doubles the risk.


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It's still 2 metres or 1 metre "PLUS" if using additional safety such as a mask . Lots of people I've observed seem to have forgotten this though.

"The government recommends that you keep two metres away from people as a precaution or one metre when you can mitigate the risk by taking other precautions in this list."

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/staying-safe-outside-your-home/staying-........

No, 1 metre does not "double" the risk but obviously must carry some extra risk I agree, which *hopefully* should be offset by the "PLUS" part of the rule. Well that's the idea anyway!! Certainly the relaxation of the rules haven't caused any large increase so far, fingers crossed it stays that way, although I'd be far happier seeing the case numbers dropping much faster

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Quote"Just to clarify...the 2 metre rule still applies everywhere except when it is impossible like on public transport or in certain working environments etc. Even 2 metres isn't far enough but reduces the risk greatly...1 metre doubles the risk."

According to a study done by the Lancet:
"Every additional 1 m of separation more than doubled the relative protection"
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31183-1/fulltext

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Message posted by Colin2129/7/2020 at 5:18pm
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I heard somewhere that reducing the 2 metres to 1 metre actually trebles the risk, but I don't know how true that is as there's so much confusing information about.

I'd like to see the infection rates coming down much faster too, but in my opinion it's travel that is keeping them from doing so. In centuries gone by when people rarely travelled outside their own towns and villages, infections were localised, but these days with people travelling all over the place, including abroad, viruses just keep on circulating.




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The point is the new rules are 1 metre *if* you are taking the additional precautions so it's not double the risk.

That Lancet report states 1m reduces risk by 82% with a further up to 85% if wearing a mask too. Certainly infections aren't doubling.....

Anyway, follow the official advice (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/staying-safe-outside-your-home/staying-........ ) rather than the armchair epidemiologist experts we all see on Facebook etc, it's important not to be part of any spread of misinformation or conspiracy theories so this thread is locked.

Keep wearing those masks folks, keep up the correct social distancing and stay safe.



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