Just heard Derby County are to enter administration which will probably end up with them getting relegated to the third tier of football. Always hate seeing clubs suffer due to the antics of dodgy owners.
Just look at Bury for example
Hope Derby bounce back soon
I second that. All clubs are just one payment to the tax office away from administration. I dont think we have seen the last of this as clubs struggle to cope financially after the lockdown.
Southend United was a good lower league club.They brought on local talent and then sold them on to higher league clubs They were not in the game of chasing up to Premier League, so were one of the most profitable clubs around.
In came Mr Johnson,a dodgy property developer who bought the club, transferred all the debts of his own company onto the football club, raided the pension fund and did not pay Inland revenue..
The club subsequently bounced along the liquidation route and gradually sold most of its squad to pay bills. It is now out of the main league football and still likely to fold.
Lockdown and player agent greed is likely to kill many a club
One love, One Club.
I'll certainly not start following any other club if my beloved Rams die off. In fact, I think I'll turn my back on football in general, as grubby as it is nowadays!
Just hope it doesn't come to that.
All we mere fans can do is keep backing them on the pitch while we still have chance, and our fingers firmly crossed for a happy ending.
...And the last thing I want to be doing is changing my UKCS username from the year of their birth, to the year of their death!
People blame the owners, the virus, the tax man, the premier league, the EFL, the agents, Sky, etc. etc. but nobody seems to be putting any blame onto the players. If they all took (I dunno) a 5 or 10% pay cut, clubs would probably be out of financial difficulties and players would still be richer than most of us can dream of. I don't begrudge them being paid well - they deserve it - but it is the biggest expense by a country mile for most clubs yet nobody is willing to do anything about it. It makes no sense to me.
Quote: Originally posted by SGThomas on 18/9/2021
Southend United was a good lower league club.They brought on local talent and then sold them on to higher league clubs They were not in the game of chasing up to Premier League, so were one of the most profitable clubs around.
In came Mr Johnson,a dodgy property developer who bought the club, transferred all the debts of his own company onto the football club, raided the pension fund and did not pay Inland revenue..
The club subsequently bounced along the liquidation route and gradually sold most of its squad to pay bills. It is now out of the main league football and still likely to fold.
Lockdown and player agent greed is likely to kill many a club
sound like asset stripping.
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The overpaid ball kickers need a reality injection. All the time people are prepared to pay to watch through Sky etc it will continue.
I don't believe they deserve the ridiculous salaries, but I am not a football fan.
I do feel sorry for the lower league clubs who struggle.
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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 18/9/2021
One love, One Club.
I'll certainly not start following any other club if my beloved Rams die off. In fact, I think I'll turn my back on football in general, as grubby as it is nowadays!
Just hope it doesn't come to that.
All we mere fans can do is keep backing them on the pitch while we still have chance, and our fingers firmly crossed for a happy ending.
...And the last thing I want to be doing is changing my UKCS username from the year of their birth, to the year of their death!
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I said the exact same when it was my team in the mire mucker. Dodgy owners have a lot to answer for. Thankfully we came through it and got our rightful place back at the top of the game up here. Now it’s just a case of staying there
I'm a Bristol Rovers and Yeovil Town fan, plus a season ticket holder for Bath Rugby, so I'm kind of used to disappointment.
That neither Rovers and Yeovil have overstretched themselves on spend is a direct return on their poor league results.
I think what's really concerning is that even clubs who aren't overstretching themselves are so vulnerable to being sold down the road.
As for players getting paid ££££££££££ it's less the case in the lower leagues but you can still often make a good living. All I know is that if someone offered me a £100m contract (plus advertising etc) for doing something silly I enjoy for a living I'd take it. I might even think of moving away from Wiltshire to a horrible beachside luxury villa in Milan or Barcelona or whatever. Ultimately, players getting paid half a million a game is a product of "the market". You don't have to watch it.
When one player alone can earn 92 million pounds in one year, and many more on tens of millions, doesn't that tell you something is wrong with the game.
The term earn is wrong. They get paid it, no way those prima donnas earn that amount.
All the time people pay for Sky Sport go to the matches and buy over priced football shirts etc it will continue.
Their choice not mine!
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Pretty much every one grows up playing football though at some point, some don't like it obviously, many more love it and aren't good enough. Some are good enough but life takes over and they drop away. The ones making a lot of money are the small group that are both good enough and dedicated enough to gamble everything on a short career that could end tomorrow through injury. Sport in the US is even better paid.
Derby though, it was easy to see that coming once he sold the ground to himself and gambled on the premiership. There will be plenty of interested parties and Derby will survive. As a Forest fan who took plenty of abuse when Forest were struggling it's easy to smile. I work in derby though and have plenty of mates who support them. Rivalries aside it's sad to see a great club in this position. They'll bounce back I'm sure.
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Wow if things weren’t bad enough for Derby, the news that Mike Ashley is hovering in the wings should be enough to fill any supporter of the club with utter dread.
If he does buy then then they really have my sympathies
Quote: Originally posted by Audi-man on 12/10/2021
Wow if things weren’t bad enough for Derby, the news that Mike Ashley is hovering in the wings should be enough to fill any supporter of the club with utter dread.
If he does buy then then they really have my sympathies
Have to admit, that was my first and immediate thought, when I first saw his name mooted.
However, slowly but surely I'm now thinking...
Better him, than no nobody at all!
Better his minimal spend, his "sensible business head", and his penchant for stabilising his asset and ultimately selling for a profit, than the massive gamble we have been witnessing for the past 6 or 7 years that oh so very nearly paid off on more than one occasion, but ultimately failed, leaving us precisely where we are now!
We as fans can do nothing about it, whoever takes us on (if indeed anyone does)!
If it really has to be Mike Ashley, or no DCFC for me to go and watch every other week (I only do the home games nowadays!) then I know which option I'd snap your hand off for, right now!
Beggars can't be choosers, etc, cliché, etc...
Oh... and I'll take your generous offer of sympathy, with much gratitude!
Cheers!
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Topic: Sad times for a famous club
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