Hi all.
We are looking at changing our Tiguan for a Ford Kuga.
In particular the 225PS hybrid with the 2.5 engine.
Is anyone using a hybrid Kuga for towing ?
Or any hybrid for that matter ?
The performance looks average I just wondered how they are in the real world for towing. We tow a 1500kg MTPLM Swift.
We are currently towing with a 1.5 petrol Tiguan which actually tows well but is very thirsty so looking at the 200hp TDi model if we stick with VW.
The new Kuga looks like it could be an alternative.
Quote: Originally posted by takisawa on 06/5/2021
Hi all.
We are looking at changing our Tiguan for a Ford Kuga.
In particular the 225PS hybrid with the 2.5 engine.
Is anyone using a hybrid Kuga for towing ?
Or any hybrid for that matter ?
The performance looks average I just wondered how they are in the real world for towing. We tow a 1500kg MTPLM Swift.
We are currently towing with a 1.5 petrol Tiguan which actually tows well but is very thirsty so looking at the 200hp TDi model if we stick with VW.
The new Kuga looks like it could be an alternative.
I could be wrong so dont shoot me is the max tow not 1200kgs ?
As well is two words!
How does a sage know everything about everything? or does he? or does he just think he does?
Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.
If you are buying the car yourself & there are no specific work related tax advantages for you with a hybrid then why bother with new technology when old technology is better for your purpose? If you want to buy a Kuga to tow a caravan then get the 2litre diesel version
""If you are buying the car yourself & there are no specific work related tax advantages for you with a hybrid then why bother with new technology when old technology is better for your purpose? If you want to buy a Kuga to tow a caravan then get the 2litre diesel version
""
We currently have a 2.0 ltr diesel BMW X1 and are changing in October looked at the Kuga 2.0 ltr Diesel & hybrid, both will pull van but with only about 25 - 30 miles on Electric, and would cost extra £1500 - 2000 more in fuel as would be petrol over diesel in a 3yr contract deal.
therefore sticking with the X1.
Quote: Originally posted by TrigGLX on 06/5/2021
cant say any fairer than "billy"
""If you are buying the car yourself & there are no specific work related tax advantages for you with a hybrid then why bother with new technology when old technology is better for your purpose? If you want to buy a Kuga to tow a caravan then get the 2litre diesel version
""
We currently have a 2.0 ltr diesel BMW X1 and are changing in October looked at the Kuga 2.0 ltr Diesel & hybrid, both will pull van but with only about 25 - 30 miles on Electric, and would cost extra £1500 - 2000 more in fuel as would be petrol over diesel in a 3yr contract deal.
therefore sticking with the X1.
Just to put another spin on it I have a plug in hybrid that's my company car, it's not our tow car so as its not up to the job, it does however save me a fortune, a tank a fuel is lasting me around 15 weeks (£35 to fill up), my old diesel mondeo used to use £50 for the same journeys a week.
The Kuga plug in hybrid PHEV towing max is 1200Kg
The Kuga Hybrid FHEV towing max is 1600kg
So I would not think with your van even the FHEV would be ideal.
Quote: Originally posted by bessie500 on 06/5/2021
Quote: Originally posted by TrigGLX on 06/5/2021
cant say any fairer than "billy"
""If you are buying the car yourself & there are no specific work related tax advantages for you with a hybrid then why bother with new technology when old technology is better for your purpose? If you want to buy a Kuga to tow a caravan then get the 2litre diesel version
""
We currently have a 2.0 ltr diesel BMW X1 and are changing in October looked at the Kuga 2.0 ltr Diesel & hybrid, both will pull van but with only about 25 - 30 miles on Electric, and would cost extra £1500 - 2000 more in fuel as would be petrol over diesel in a 3yr contract deal.
therefore sticking with the X1.
Just to put another spin on it I have a plug in hybrid that's my company car, it's not our tow car so as its not up to the job, it does however save me a fortune, a tank a fuel is lasting me around 15 weeks (£35 to fill up), my old diesel mondeo used to use £50 for the same journeys a week.
Bessie
I think it depends a great deal on what use you put a vehicle to. For most of my day to day running about an EV would suit me perfectly. I even have somewhere I could park it to charge overnight. Absolutely no way I could even think of affording one though. Even if I could afford it, I would still need to keep my current tow vehicle. I think this is going to be the problem for many with a caravan to tow. They would either need to run two vehicles, or just one diesel one. If you don't need a tow car a hybrid is probably the best bet at the moment. It's probably what I would go for if I could afford it and didn't have the caravan.
Quote: Originally posted by daveyjp on 06/5/2021
The hybrid Kuga with battery packs which can burst into flames?
It won't be more efficient as it will be using the petrol engine 99% of the time.
Towing a caravan that might be the case but the rest of the time, they are very efficient, my car 99% of its time in electric.
For journeys outside of its electric range it will return around 65mpg
Quote: Originally posted by bessie500 on 06/5/2021
Quote: Originally posted by TrigGLX on 06/5/2021
cant say any fairer than "billy"
Just to put another spin on it I have a plug in hybrid that's my company car, it's not our tow car so as its not up to the job, it does however save me a fortune, a tank a fuel is lasting me around 15 weeks (£35 to fill up), my old diesel mondeo used to use £50 for the same journeys a week.
Bessie
I think it depends a great deal on what use you put a vehicle to. For most of my day to day running about an EV would suit me perfectly. I even have somewhere I could park it to charge overnight. Absolutely no way I could even think of affording one though. Even if I could afford it, I would still need to keep my current tow vehicle. I think this is going to be the problem for many with a caravan to tow. They would either need to run two vehicles, or just one diesel one. If you don't need a tow car a hybrid is probably the best bet at the moment. It's probably what I would go for if I could afford it and didn't have the caravan.
your right colin, but most working households have at least 2 cars and whilst full electric are still expensive, some hybrids are not that much more than the diesel equivalent
How did your 1.5 tsi engine cope with towing a 1500kg caravan. I would have thought it would really struggle. I ask because we have been considering this engine but for a much lighter van
Quote: Originally posted by keith p on 12/5/2021
How did your 1.5 tsi engine cope with towing a 1500kg caravan. I would have thought it would really struggle. I ask because we have been considering this engine but for a much lighter van
Can't comment on that particular car/engine, but just because it's petrol doesn't automatically mean it'll struggle or be thirsty!
I tow my 1310Kg MTPLM van with a 1.2 litre 3 cylinder petrol car, it'll exceed the 60mph speed limit with ease (usually have to use speed limiter or cruise control, otherwise it's far too easy to exceed limit! - car's solo top end is near 130mph, once accidentally hit over 70 with the van on and it was still increasing!), cruises in 6th gear much of the time, never met a hill it wouldn't go up and I've been to Lake District, Wales and North Devon so not noted flat country, and just back from Devon, where it averaged 34.5mpg at ave 50mph over couple of hundred miles. Worst ave fuel consumption it's ever returned was 27mpg and that was on mostly winding hilly A/B roads. Yes you change gear a bit more than you would with a diesel when you hit the hills, but it's no great hardship. Wouldn't say all petrol engines are great, but there are some out there that ain't bad, especially the latest generation! Lot of factors that determine whether a vehicle is a good tow car, like well matched engine power curve and gear ratios, that's true of either diesel or petrol engines.
Quote: Originally posted by keith p on 12/5/2021
How did your 1.5 tsi engine cope with towing a 1500kg caravan. I would have thought it would really struggle. I ask because we have been considering this engine but for a much lighter van
Can't comment on that particular car/engine, but just because it's petrol doesn't automatically mean it'll struggle or be thirsty!
I tow my 1310Kg MTPLM van with a 1.2 litre 3 cylinder petrol car, it'll exceed the 60mph speed limit with ease (usually have to use speed limiter or cruise control, otherwise it's far too easy to exceed limit! - car's solo top end is near 130mph, once accidentally hit over 70 with the van on and it was still increasing!), cruises in 6th gear much of the time, never met a hill it wouldn't go up and I've been to Lake District, Wales and North Devon so not noted flat country, and just back from Devon, where it averaged 34.5mpg at ave 50mph over couple of hundred miles. Worst ave fuel consumption it's ever returned was 27mpg and that was on mostly winding hilly A/B roads. Yes you change gear a bit more than you would with a diesel when you hit the hills, but it's no great hardship. Wouldn't say all petrol engines are great, but there are some out there that ain't bad, especially the latest generation! Lot of factors that determine whether a vehicle is a good tow car, like well matched engine power curve and gear ratios, that's true of either diesel or petrol engines.
34.5mpg from a 1.2 petrol whilst towing, What car is it monty ?
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