just read an article about diesel emissions, and that we may be made to pay an extra £50 a year to run them, how will we cope, theres nothing out there in the petrol range that's as efficient
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Look on Volvo USA website. Is 2litre petrol supercharged & turbocharged, 316bhp with 295lbs/ft of torque enough for you? sounds like the future to me.
The raise in road tax for existing diesels in UK is unlikely though. The emissions based road tax ends for all new cars 2017 onwards anyway. Rates for existing cars to stay the same.
Quote: Originally posted by petra8315 on 01/10/2015
just read an article about diesel emissions, and that we may be made to pay an extra £50 a year to run them,
Where?
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Quote: Originally posted by petra8315 on 01/10/2015
just read an article about diesel emissions, and that we may be made to pay an extra £50 a year to run them, how will we cope, theres nothing out there in the petrol range that's as efficient
£50 for a VW car,. Others at the moment are not mentioned.
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Quote: Originally posted by petra8315 on 01/10/2015just read an article about diesel emissions, and that we may be made to pay an extra £50 a year to run them,
Where?
iwas told today that it was in a paper, so i googled it and loads about it
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Quote: Originally posted by BiIIy on 01/10/2015
Look on Volvo USA website. Is 2litre petrol supercharged & turbocharged, 316bhp with 295lbs/ft of torque enough for you? sounds like the future to me.
The raise in road tax for existing diesels in UK is unlikely though. The emissions based road tax ends for all new cars 2017 onwards anyway. Rates for existing cars to stay the same.
Post last edited on 01/10/2015 19:18:42
so they will be phased out eventually by the looks of it
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To those of us with a bit of knowledge, plenty written about this seems nonsense. This talk of software adjustment to affected VWs increasing fuel consumption. How does that make sense? if you increase fuel consumption you increase emissions.
They have stopped sales of new Euro6 VWs but older new unsold Euro5s can still be sold, sounds like a PR stunt to me.
The dangers of the diesel nitrogen oxide emissions have been increasingly in the news months before the VW scandal blew up so all the VW thing is doing is giving extra impetus to that. Nothing has actually changed.
If you stop producing diesel cars you are still left with diesel trucks & buses & that is not gong to change.
I'm failing to see how UK/European car buyers have been 'deceived' when the issue is about nitrogen oxide emissions not Co2 emissions.
The way I understand it Billy, the software detects when the car is undergoing a NOX emission test and turns on NOX emission control. This works by using more fuel to burn it off.
Then when the car is being tested for fuel consumption and CO2 emission, the NOX control is switched off, as it is for normal use. This improves the fuel consumption.
VW will have to update the software so the NOX emission control is on all the time and this will increase fuel consumption in daily use.
So less Nox, more Co2? Or 'tother way around? Logically if you use more fuel you emit more of everything, I would have thought?
Oddly enough this was the theory in the 80s when small diesel cars first appeared in any numbers. In those days petrol engines were worse fuel consumption than now & diesels actually a bit better although much slower. So theory was was...Petrol 1.6 doing 30mpg polluted more than 1.6 diesel doing 60mpg. Ie more fuel burnt per mile = more pollution.
Quote: Originally posted by BiIIy on 01/10/2015
Look on Volvo USA website. Is 2litre petrol supercharged & turbocharged, 316bhp with 295lbs/ft of torque enough for you? sounds like the future to me.
Post last edited on 01/10/2015 19:18:42
Really??????
Estimated city mpg: 20mpg
Estimated highway mpg: 25mpg
I realise US gallon is a bit smaller than UK gallon, but also allow for wildly positive estimates.
Petrol engines don't pull as well as diesel which is why all the original petrol engined tractors were superseded by diesel engined ones. There was a program last week about diesel engines where they did a comparison test pulling a sled. It might do the job but why would anyone want to use an engine with inferior towing characteristics which is much dearer to run?
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