Not tried this one but I have used a similar one called Ultraseal or Puncturesafe in my motorcycle.
I used it on the recommendation of the BikeSchool I learned with and it was being used by some Police and Royal Mail.
Does it work? Well in the bike, yes and no.
It helps if you have a small puncture to seal it and carry on riding and in the case of a larger puncture (yes it happened) it made the bike controllable enough to bring it to a safe stop of the side of the motorway (two up with lugguage) but still meant had to call breakdown to get towed for a replacement tyre.
Just because you have this stuff in does not mean you should not be checking your tyres on a regular basis anyway.
Having it in makes no difference at all to if it can be repaired or not, you simply wash it out of the tyre before doing any repairs ..... tyre fitters don't like people using it just because of the bit of mess it creates when washing it out.
I had a similar product (Punctureseal) injected into the tyres of a Merc CLK I used to own. Never had a problem. As stated above you're still supposed to check your tyres regularly. If you spot a screw or nail in your tyre you just remove it with pliers and the gel blocks the hole permanently.
As for being unsafe it (punctureseal) is TUV approved for use in tyres.
The rear wheels on the Merc were enormous, I struggled to lift them never mind my wife. I figured that it was an investment if it would prevent me ending up in one of the most dangerous places on earth, the hard shoulder of the M6 at night.
The garage who injected it also injected it into a van hire fleet the owner of which considered it a good investment also.
Supposed to check the tyres, Like people are supposed to check the oil.
Ye its amazing the amount of cars that go in for a service that have barely a drip on the dipstick.
The problem is they dont check them. Dont remove the object which can cause the tyre to fail.
The TUV testing has a few interesting points. A nail driven into the edge of the tread did not get sealed on the test rig.
Driving around curves would be needed. By this time the tyre would be flat or low on air.
Also issues of it sealing punctures near the tyres sidewall.
It's a pre-puncture treatment. I have it on my scoot. It's water soluble, so unlike the post-puncture foam cans like Holts do, it can be easily washed out if required. It's the post-puncture foams which tyre places don't like dealing with.
Of course it's not going to stop a side wall gash. It's purpose is to seal small nail type holes in the main tyre footprint. It can't make anything worse. It'll either work or not. Saying it leads to neglect is ridiculous. Of course tyres should be regularly checked, as should oil, water, bulbs etc. Folks who don't care about maintainance aren't going to pay for the treatment anyway.
I see it as very worthwhile for the PTW/caravan/FC/TT market, where a spare may not be carried. I'd have it done on the car, but can't find a local installer.
DIY kits are available on eBay.
------------- Mike
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Yes what im spouting is utter rubbish, But you didnt have to collect the wrecked motorbike after the rider decided it was safe to ride at speed after using a sealant to fix the puncture.
I have collected many wrecked cars/bikes. When they have blood and tissue over them it still makes me queasy.
Quote: Originally posted by Grampian91 on 27/10/2012Yes what im spouting is utter rubbish, But you didnt have to collect the wrecked motorbike after the rider decided it was safe to ride at speed after using a sealant to fix the puncture.
I have collected many wrecked cars/bikes. When they have blood and tissue over them it still makes me queasy.
I`m afraid I have to agree with the majority on here, you are spouting rubbish. The fact that you are attempting to defend your position by introducing other, totally unrelated products to justify your stance is all any rational person needs to know.
You are comparing a post-puncture "sealant/inflator" with a puncture prevention product. The two aren`t related, are made of different components, used at different times and are designed to perform entirely different functions.
Anyone using an sealant/inflator then driving or riding anything at speed is undoubtedly stupid, but that is the fault of the individual, not the product. If you don`t know what a product does, or is designed to do, you shouldn`t use it. And if you can`t, or choose not to, understand what a product does or is designed to do you shouldn`t really comment on it with "authority".
Angus makes a good point. We couldn't find an Ultraseal type installer locally so before our holiday in France this year, I got a Holts foam post-puncture can.
We didn't need it, but had we suffered the sort of puncture deflation it is designed for, I would have used it to inflate the tyre then driven carefully to the nearest tyre place.
We're not talking about a post-puncture treatment. We're talking about the Ultraseal/Punctureseal pre-puncture products.
------------- Mike
My advice is worth no more than the price paid for it
Having sold the stuff in the past many years ago called Ultraseal and knowing now the potential consequences, there is no ways I would recommend any of this puncture seal stuff to any one.
I will no doubt be accused of being pedantic, but I would suggest that punctures can only be prevented by not driving over any object that can pierce (or "puncture") a tyre. Therefore, any product such as the one mentioned on here (pre-applied) or any other (post-applied) is merely a puncture-sealant, and should be considered, assessed, and relied upon (or otherwise!) as such....
..It's not just your life, it's who's with you and who else is on the same road....
Gram
------------- What's the difference between a chicken?
Indeed. But consider this. I'm doing 60 on a busy dual carriageway on my scooter. At that speed I've no chance of seeing a nail in the road which just happens to be at a 45 degree angle. My front tyre grabs it and I get a centre tread puncture which may or may not result in deflation, which may or may not cause me to loose control and drop the bike, whilst hoping that traffic all around me can take avoiding action.
If it deflates and I drop it, I'll know what's happened - if I survive.
If it doesn't deflate, and handling is unaffected, I'll spot it on my next pre-flight check. And I'll take the wheel off and go to a tyre place.
Of course, all the above may still happen even if I've applied a pre-puncture treatment. If it's going to go, it's going to go, nothing will stop it - unless we go back to solid tyres. Believe me, I don't ride along thinking I'm bomb-proof, and I didn't have it installed so I could leave common sense and responsibility at home.
But if the treatment prevents deflation, it's worth it. As I said before, it'll either help, or not.
It can't make anything worse.
------------- Mike
My advice is worth no more than the price paid for it
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