Quote: Originally posted by Styve100 on 22/2/2020
Just thought I would add my contribution to this.
I think the caravan industry is in for a shake up, as, the cars they currently rely on to tow them will disappear.
We have been harking on about lightweight tourers for years, but just look around on the caravan site?
What do you see?
Loads of pick up, 4x4's large caravans with all the kids, bikes, dogs, awnings etc. its all fine,
As much as it is the scene of caravan parks just now, it will not continue and the government is going to ensure it doesn't by manipulating market forces,
We are all part of this without realising it and have been for years, include video formats to cars in this.
Most Hybrid cars are firstly, I think a load of hype and secondly purposely low on towing limits, some are booked as low as 1000kg max tow weight. Also i hired a Kia Niro 3 for a couple of weeks, I was not impressed. It was a petrol 1.6 and the engine ran for about 50% of the time regardless of what I did also in this model you had no control of when it did or didnt run. Overall average mpg?... 48, driving it like Miss Daisy.
Also, consider what I said, the engine ran for 50% of the time, so if i did 100 miles and got 48mpg, is that good?
I have a 1.5 DCi Clio that can average 72mpg and the engine is running all the time.
We are simply not going to be able to tow the caravans that are on the road just now.
MOT test will exclude most of the vehicles on the road just now, you will not pass the emissions test.
We've just purchased a Kia Niro2 and are awaiting a delivery date, but comparing what friends are getting with their 1600 petrols I certainly will not be complaining about 48mpg. They are getting no-where near that.
Comparing it to a Clio 1.5 Dci is preposterous!
The Niro should be more than happy towing my caravan with a max weight of 1075kg, considering the towing limit is 1400kg.
And I don't think you understand MoT tests if you think most cars will fail the emmisions test!
HI ! Škoda states 1600 kg as a braked towing weight. But as far as I know the weight is determined by pulling caravan on on 12% uphill. The Superb PHEV has 400NM of torque in hybrid mode so it is understandable that the figure is relatively high. I am concerned however for a long uphill drive when there is no more energy in the battery and the car must pull solely with 1,4 ccm petrol engine. I know that if you order the diesel/petrol only Superb (same for Passat) with a towbar the factory will also enlarge the cooling capacity of the engine. I do not know however how it is with PHEV because the hybrid engine room is very much limited.
If somebody has the experience with Passat PHEV would be great to hear. It is same solution and already tested in the field...
Thx and best regards,
Matjaz
Towing now with Citroen C6 2,7 HDI
Quote: Originally posted by SamandRose on 28/2/2020
Which version of the Kia Niro are you looking at Llani?
The hybrid and plug-in hybrid versions were suggested to me as company cars just over a year ago but neither were approved to tow at all.
The first models released in the UK were not Type Approved, and that caught us out. However the newest model introduced in 2019, with the newer front (2 DRL's each side, low down) design are Type Approved.
We have ordered a Niro2 Self Charging model as we have no-where to fit a charge point at home, since we have no garage or drive. Gone for the 2 as it is equipped with 16" wheels and not silly low profiles. From a FB page it appears that they also make the car much more economical.
Quote: Originally posted by LlaniDavis on 29/2/2020
Quote: Originally posted by SamandRose on 28/2/2020
Which version of the Kia Niro are you looking at Llani?
The hybrid and plug-in hybrid versions were suggested to me as company cars just over a year ago but neither were approved to tow at all.
The first models released in the UK were not Type Approved, and that caught us out. However the newest model introduced in 2019, with the newer front (2 DRL's each side, low down) design are Type Approved.
We have ordered a Niro2 Self Charging model as we have no-where to fit a charge point at home, since we have no garage or drive. Gone for the 2 as it is equipped with 16" wheels and not silly low profiles. From a FB page it appears that they also make the car much more economical.
What do you think of it so far?
My parents have just ordered the same one and spec for their next mobility car.
They already know the reliability and service from the local dealer as it will be their 4th Kia after having a Nissan before that.
Quote: Originally posted by ST1100 on 02/3/2020
What do you think of it so far?
My parents have just ordered the same one and spec for their next mobility car.
They already know the reliability and service from the local dealer as it will be their 4th Kia after having a Nissan before that.
Haven't got it yet, and waiting for a build/delivery date from the dealer, but according to some Coronavirus is affecting things.
Llanidavis I ordered a hybrid bmw in December my delivery date is the end of June, a work colleague ordered a rav 4 hybrid in September his is also coming in June
Those date were given before the virus hit, so god know what time frame it will have now.
When I was talking to a Toyota dealer last Oct, they said their was a world shortage of car parts coming out of China.... that was 5 months ago
one of my customers is struggling now as the ships that he needs to load are stuck at sea unable to dock in the uk. He’s overrun with scrap and whilst you can’t get rid the price has plummeted
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Topic: towing with a hybrid
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