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25/6/2007 at 12:23pm
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 could anyone advice me on a few things what dose m.t.p.l.m mean and is my kerbwieght the same as my max towing wieght. and also my mro . my car is a 1.8 petrol  manual hyundi with a max towing wieght of 1300kg .and a nose wieght of 52 is there vans out there that would suit needs to be at lest 3/4 berth .I have deducted 15% of my max towing wieght and got 1105kg is this right .  many thanks for any help Dave



25/6/2007 at 12:32pm
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MTPLM is the maximum technical permissable laden mass. In other words the max that the caravan should be loaded to. Ideally you shouldn't tow any more than 85% of your cars kerb weight. Your cars max towing weight will not be the same as your kerbweight. This is usually higher, and is based on towing a braked trailor generally. Anything much higher than your 85% may make the car struggle. MRO, is mass running order, how much the van weighs without loading.

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25/6/2007 at 12:38pm
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 thanks mandy this will help when im looking round for a van


25/6/2007 at 1:07pm
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For cars......

Kerbweight  = Unladen weight of tow car

Max Tow weight = Max weight the car can move from a standing start up a set incline.

Max gross train weight (GTW) = maximum combined weight of car and trailer

Kerbweight and Max tow weight are NOT generally the same figure (well they could be by a coincidence) and are not the same concept

For trailers/caravans

MTPLM = maximum weight of trailer & contents

MIRO = Mass in running order, weight of trailer with a basic loadout (gas, battery etc)

ULM = unladen mass, weight of trailer empty.

 

 

If you passed your test after 1/1/97 the MTPLM of your trailer must not exceed the kerbweight of your tow car, and the MTGW must not exceed 3500kg (this rules out many large car/mpv/4x4 & caravan combinations.

 

To get a 4 berth van round the ideal weight you may find it advantageous to look for a much older van, 80s or early 90s, when caravans were much lighter than many modern ones I have a 3/4 berth sprite that has a max weight of 891kg, my girlfriends "luxury" 2 berth from the late 80s weighs in at 975kg max. Both mine and the girlfriends regular cars are 1.8 and I personally would not really want much more behind despite the fact techinically we can tow much more.



25/6/2007 at 1:56pm
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hi have you looked at baileys? we have a 2000 bailey ranger 4 birth and the mptlm is only 1195kg and i think that the bailey discovery is even lighter.


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25/6/2007 at 2:23pm
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Our cristall is a 4 berth and has a mptlm of 1000kg.  The 5 or 6 berth ones aren't that much heavier either.


25/6/2007 at 6:44pm
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Hi Dave, Go on  www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/ and look for your exact model of car then you will be able to get the kerbweight and then work out your 85% limit correctly hope you find this helps.

Cheers

Russ

 



25/6/2007 at 7:08pm
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25/6/2007 at 11:16pm
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  thanks for all the advice i now have alot more idea of what im doing.




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