My first 4X4 towcar was a Mitsubish Pajero 2.8 TD Auto, it was a dream to tow with, very stable and smooth. I now have a Toyota Landcruiser Colorado 3.0 TD again Auto. I can't fault it, and it is more economical to run than the Pajero.
I did have a Land Rover TD5 for a while, between these two Japenese 4x4's
It was very noisy, leaking sun roofs, elctrical faults. and wobbly when towing,and leaking power steering. It put me off Land Rover for life
Quote: Originally posted by LegsDownKettleOn on 02/2/2010
Quote: Originally posted by jocko2 on 02/2/2010
Quote: Originally posted by LegsDownKettleOn on 02/2/2010The main reason Kia keep winning the Caravan Towcar of the Year award is because Kia pay the caravan club a lot of money. Even the Kia Cerato managed to win in one category.
Are you trying to say that Kia have their nose in your trough.........your Lordship?
Nope, just pointing out that you don't have to produce the best towcar to win towcar of the year if you are prepared to pay enough money. Just like you don't need to have the best music to get to number one. You just need to get people to but the record (or buy lots of copies yourself)
Hmmmm, not sure your analogy really works. The pop charts have never been a measure of "quality", just "popularity" - getting enough people to buy your music all at once is the trick ... and the point. However, there are very careful checks that make rigging the chart by "buying lots of copies yourself) very difficult, and very expensive. Even in a quiet week you'd need sales of at least 20,000 copies to get to No 1.
OK, enough of that. You suggest that the CC Towcar of the Year is rigged. I couldn't possibly comment - I have no connection whatsoever with it. I'd just add that whether or not it's rigged, it's a rubbish guide to choosing a towcar.
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My first 4X4 towcar was a Mitsubish Pajero 2.8 TD Auto, it was a dream to tow with, very stable and smooth. I now have a Toyota Landcruiser Colorado 3.0 TD again Auto. I can't fault it, and it is more economical to run than the Pajero.
I did have a Land Rover TD5 for a while, between these two Japenese 4x4's
It was very noisy, leaking sun roofs, elctrical faults. and wobbly when towing,and leaking power steering. It put me off Land Rover for life
Remember not all Landrovers have needless electric gadgets. The Defenders 2.5 TD, 200 TDI & TDI 90 we have had many years inexpensive trouble free reliable safe motoring in. I include towing with NO wobbling whatsoever. Wouldn't dream of towing horses or a caravan with them otherwise.
They can actually cope with rather a lot of snow too, which is a bonus if you live anywhere which experiences real snow & untreated roads.
Just some of the reasons we have them, & stick with them.
I have and have had for a few years a TD5 Discovery, I tow lots of different sized and weight trailers with it all over the country. I have never had any wobble or anything other than a superb stable towing platform. As to its little probs, all cars have them they are just easier to fix on a land rover. In my opinion with a decent set of tyres (i run general grabber AT2s) its got to be one of the best tow cars around.
Jeep cherokee 2.8 crd will tow your van at 77% cost you about 7000 and if you buy one up to 23 march 2006 will cost 245 a year in tax.Great cars,decent solo mpg,all the trimmings will tow 2140 kg.
Isn't it to do with exhaust emissions rather than whether it's a 4wd or a 2wd ?
Btw if you just mean diesel emissions, it's true that the particles produced when diesel is burned are harmful to humans, when sufficient in number to produce a smog.
However petrol emissions actually cause more harm to the environmentas a whole - per gallon of fuel used than diesel.
Worth bearing in mind also that a 2wd car that does say 25mpg is still more `polluting' than a 4wd that does say, 36mpg.
We had a Swift Conqueror 540 and the Vauxhall Frontera Olympus 2.2 dti LWB pulled it like a dream.There are still some very good Fronteras out there. I know , we have just sold one.It was on a '52' plate and had 44000 miles one the clock.
On the whole 4x4 and environmentsl debate I just would like to recall a couple of years back when on a rally field on the fylde coast. The rain had cme down hard for nearly a week and the whole place was like the somme. There was the sight of units coupled up and the 2wd cars flailing about in the mud going nowhere (including mine) until a kind man took me off the field with his 4x4. Us 2wd folk are quick to point the environmental finger but in times like these who do we turn to. I would own one myself if my boss was kind enough to give me a payrise. I rest my case.
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