just to note what bills put above, i think the BHP at 6000 rpm, isnt that a rather high rpm to be messuring hore power,
my 2.5 jeep cheokee did 29mpg solo, the cost of running a 4x4 isnt expensive, you just need to find yourself a good perosn to work on your car.
Fuel service for my 3L shogun, cambelt £10, filter kit £20,some greese and washer fluid £10, oil £14, the only killer is the spark plugs at £70 for 6 but thats because there LPG plugs,
So to all of you who have a large 4x4 just to tow a few times a year is it worth the additional expense for the remainder of the year
if you can afford it, definitely . had my pajero nearly 2 years now ,worth more now than i paid for it,zero depriciation makes up for the extra fuel .. how many skoda drivers can say that ?
Quote: Originally posted by Bill Terry on 10/11/2010
Model Skoda Octavia FSI 4x4 estate Engine four-cylinder, 1984cc Power 150bhp at 6000rpm Torque 148 lb ft at 3500rpm Transmission Six-speed manual Fuel 31.7mpg (combined cycle) CO2 214g/km Acceleration 0-62mph: 9.7sec Top speed 126mph Price £16,750 Verdict Well built and good value but slightly dull Rating 3/5
My 4x4 does more to the gallon than this! and its a 2.2
try 49 mpg upwards for the diesel version, and dont forget it runs in normal 2ws most of the time and only goes to 4wd when its needed automatically
The towing allowance is very close to the kerbweight. With the OP having a van of around 1500kg it makes about 94% which is possibly ok for an experienced person, but above recommended limit.
With our Peggy it is about 87%, probably less with 2 people and some stuff on board so its a poibility. Sticking with the mighty Sorrento at the mo!!!
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Well if the santa fe is anything like as good as a sorento for towing it will make a decent used towcar buy. I tow our sterling 540 windward with a sorento and it shrugs off the long 1500kg (max) single axle van with ease. Fair play i could tow it with a saloon or hatchback but as already mentioned the match would be close to 100% and not ideal. And if you get stuck towing it in winds like we have endured the last few days, the santa fe will be much more relaxing to tow with than a light saloon. If your diesel 4x4 manages 29mpg avarage (towing & solo combined), but a saloon manages 35mpg (towing and solo combined), and you travel 10000 miles per year you will use about 59 gallons more fuel per year in your 4x4. Even at £1.25 per litre, the extra fuel will cost you £329 per year extra. Thats £6.32 per week, or under £1 a day. Considering the cost of motoring (insurance, depreciation, maintenance, road tax etc), the extra £6.32 a week will buy you a more relaxed towcar that will hardly ever get stuck on wet grassy camping fields, will shrug off bad weather/puddles/skiddy roads with ease and offer a huge amount of interior space and better accident safety should the worse ever happen to you. Or you can save money and have a more sporty to drive saloon. I personally would buy the santa fe and put up with people calling me a planet killer - especially the ones who jet off to warmer climes 2 or 3 times a year. At least camping is 'green' compared to that hehe
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Quote: Originally posted by doit on 11/11/2010
Well if the santa fe is anything like as good as a sorento for towing it will make a decent used towcar buy. I tow our sterling 540 windward with a sorento and it shrugs off the long 1500kg (max) single axle van with ease. Fair play i could tow it with a saloon or hatchback but as already mentioned the match would be close to 100% and not ideal. And if you get stuck towing it in winds like we have endured the last few days, the santa fe will be much more relaxing to tow with than a light saloon. If your diesel 4x4 manages 29mpg avarage (towing & solo combined), but a saloon manages 35mpg (towing and solo combined), and you travel 10000 miles per year you will use about 59 gallons more fuel per year in your 4x4. Even at £1.25 per litre, the extra fuel will cost you £329 per year extra. Thats £6.32 per week, or under £1 a day. Considering the cost of motoring (insurance, depreciation, maintenance, road tax etc), the extra £6.32 a week will buy you a more relaxed towcar that will hardly ever get stuck on wet grassy camping fields, will shrug off bad weather/puddles/skiddy roads with ease and offer a huge amount of interior space and better accident safety should the worse ever happen to you. Or you can save money and have a more sporty to drive saloon. I personally would buy the santa fe and put up with people calling me a planet killer - especially the ones who jet off to warmer climes 2 or 3 times a year. At least camping is 'green' compared to that hehe
lol, and when they are stuck in a snowdrift this winter they wont want pulling out by someone with a gas guzzling 4x4 will they ?
i asked about a 4x4 due to were we live now in the winter it gets very bad with snow and at the begining of this year had to leave my wifes and i car on the drive for a week dont want to do the same again this year .
i am going to look at a kia sorento 54 plate 118,000 miles good condition
Yes the Skoda Octavia 4x4s get you out of all sorts of situations
hello there
got my 1.6 cr 4X4 delivered 1 month ago after 7 weeks waiting time.
as a previous fabia 1.2 owner it was a delight to have almost doubled the horse power :-) as i am living in the mountains of norway with 5 months of constant snow covered roads it makes sense to drive a 4X4. so far im really happy with the handlig on snow especially when you accelererate during a curve. 2wd would have gone straight of the road. the 4X4 haldex system works when normal driving it uses 90% front weel drive and 10% on the rear tires. cant feel any difference from a 2wd. but when you push the pedal and its a little bit slippery it transfers the power 50% on both axels. havent been towing anything yet but the diesel engine has a lot of power. because of the heavy car tax system in norway i went for this engine size. if i would have gone for the 2.0 liter 4X4 it would have costed 5400 pounds more, belive it or not!!!!! i bought a special winter promotion pack from skoda norway that incl xenons, towbar, elegance, pluss pack, parking heater with timer, light assistant etc. as i think the car tax system in the UK is far less than here i would defenetly recomend that you go for the 2.0 liter. more power to the people. as we are using Liters per 100/KM here i have an average of 6 Liters per 100/KM dont know how much that is in MPG.
i think this car option is very popular in norway. especially after a test the norwegian AAA tested it to be number one . My link its in norwegian put copy it in to google translate and you get an idea,
any more questions? just ask
Thanks for the suggestions.
Seems if you want a new estate, rather than an SUV, with 4x4, you're limited to Audi A4/A6 Allroad, Subaru Legacy/Outback or Skoda 4x4 Octavia/Scout.
I'm sold on the Octavia but for reasons of budget want the 1.6TDI CR, which nobody seems to have and fewer want/will recommend: the 2.0TDI seeming to be the engine of choice for the 4x4 drivetrain.
Trouble is the outlay and running costs for the 2.0TDI are a bit more:
*Addtitonal £1200 outlay for the 2.0L over the 1.6L
We tow our Bailey Ranger 500/5 with a Vauxhall Frontera 2.2 DTI.
I get around 30 mpg while towing and around 40 mpg solo on long runs and about 30 around town.
I have owned this car for 2 yrs and apart from oil, oil filters, air filters, the only other parts i have had to buy were rocker cover gasket and fan belt.
We travel at least 2 times year with the caravan from our home in Buckie NE Scotland to Fareham Hampshire,a round trip of approx 1,300 miles.
What a can of worms , 4x4 v car . If you live in the country and get snowed in , even the anti 4x4 lobby must see the sense of them as your regular drive , never mind the superior towing . Any diesel one over two litres with the towing capacity and nose weight capacity has to be good . It simply comes to costings and comfort . The Asian 4x4 manufacturers do a good job nowadays with the input they have had from european customers . The Disco TD5 is great if well cared for and not at all bad on fuel . Auto is best due to matching torque to load very well . It really is simple , buy the best you can afford to run and feel comfy in . Personally , I would love to afford a TD5 or TDi , just ask a stable owner how good they work .
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