i bought some chunky off road tyres for a daihatsu i once had for pulling a large jetski on and of the beach, took it on trip once and the noise was incredible, so, turned up the cd as previously mentioned, next thing had a major blowout on a rear tyre, the thing turned on its side, and even flew over the central reservation on its side, broken collarbone and bashed in head.
stuck to ordinary rd tyres on my next trooper , and learned how to inflate/ deflate tyres to cope with different surfaces.
I had BFG Goodrich All Terrains on my Trooper. They were pretty much as quiet as the original road tyres. The Grabber ATs on my Patrol are, if anything, quieter than the BFG's were. I doubt that anyone (with the kind of 4x4 they might be fitted to) would consider either to be noisy.
We had BFG AT's on our Pajero fantastic tyre we did 60,000+ still plenty of tread left on them only downside £££££££££'s
We now have General Grabbers on our LC excellent and cheaper will they wear as well don't no. I suspect that the side wall might be a bit less bullet proof than the BFG but they were about 40% cheaper.
The only problem we have is when towing off a muddy field is the amount off mud that unloads from the tread on to the front of the van.
PS we haven't noticed any extra noise or handling problem on road when compared to the original fit dunlops on the LC
We had BFG AT's on our Pajero fantastic tyre we did 60,000+ still plenty of tread left on them only downside £££££££££'s
We now have General Grabbers on our LC excellent and cheaper will they wear as well don't no.
I fitted BFG ATs on a Trooper when it had 40,000 on the clock. They were still there (with about 4mm tread) when I traded it in with just short of 120,000 miles on it. Amazing ........
I've had Grabber AT2 on the Patrol for about 30,000 miles. They have about 6mm tread left - so using about 1mm tread for each 4000 miles. Total life for the AT2 should be close on 50,000.
I don't think the Grabber AT2 sidewalls are necessarily less robust than the BFG's. Yes, they are 2 ply where the BFGs are 3 ply - but there's more to tyre design than just the number of sidewall plies.
Why does nobody use the tyres originaly fitted to a 4x4 im not talking about school mobiles but proper off roaders.Companys spend a lot of money to find a tyre suitable for off road and on,unless your really going to go up a mountain road etc i would stick to what was on the vehicle when it was new.
Most 4x4s spend 95% (and usually much more) of their life on the road - so manufacturers fit tyres that are suitable for that purpose. If you use a 4x4 offroad or if you go greenlaning, mud terrain or all-terrain tyres are far more suited to the purpose.
I see no point in buying a capable offroader and then crippling it by keeping road tyres on it. It's a bit like a walker going hiking or mountaineering wearing brogues.
Quote: Originally posted by AndrewK on 13/2/2011
Most 4x4s spend 95% (and usually much more) of their life on the road - so manufacturers fit tyres that are suitable for that purpose. If you use a 4x4 offroad or if you go greenlaning, mud terrain or all-terrain tyres are far more suited to the purpose.
I see no point in buying a capable offroader and then crippling it by keeping road tyres on it. It's a bit like a walker going hiking or mountaineering wearing brogues.
Andrew
I know what your saying Andrew but the tyres fitted originaly to my mits has coped every year,including this one.I didnt buy a 4x4 to off road every weekend i bought it for my needs and that includes health matters.
Quote: Originally posted by jeff juke on 13/2/2011
Why does nobody use the tyres originaly fitted to a 4x4 im not talking about school mobiles but proper off roaders.Companys spend a lot of money to find a tyre suitable for off road and on,unless your really going to go up a mountain road etc i would stick to what was on the vehicle when it was new.
Some people do jeff. I've always kept whatever was on the car & on my old Defender TDI 90 the originals were BF Goodridge `normal' town & country all terrain tyres. I ran it on them till they wore out & they coped very well off road, on the road, & in very deep snow.
The only reason I've not stuck to the exact same type is the Wranglers are a lot less expensive (about £25 less for each tyre) but they're just ATs anyway. I did lots of off road driving but also needed to drive on the road too so stuck withj ATs - the noise of the mud tyres drives me nuts.
Lots of people seem convinced that they need to rush out & put great big knobbly tyres on their 4x4 but if you have a decent 4x4 (& know how to drive off-road) you can generally generally get by without them unless you do a lot of `proper' off road driving in very dep mud.
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Quote: Originally posted by jeff juke on 13/2/2011tyres fitted originaly to my mits has coped every year
Yes, so for you road tyres are ideal. On the other hand, if you took your motor greenlaning, it wouldn't be long before you'd want to change them - probably the first time that someone had to tow you out of the clag.
Yep Andrew I totally agree, I'd change my ATs for proper mud tyres if I had to do a lot of driving in really deep mud. Seen dozens of 4x4s having to get pulled out by tractors at game fairs & such like when the ground was a quagmire, just no way ordinary road tyres will cope with it.
ps jeff - I was sober ! Just tired pal.
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I have a volvo xc70 & when i changed all 4 tyres. I did not put original equipment M&S back on it. I just had normal road tyres put on it. They hold the road better & when towing they win hands down on stability. there quieter as well. Always tell your insurance tho. There were no price change for telling them this. £205 for all 4.
Quote: Tessie the Two Ton Terracan needs new tyres. Any recommendations?
Mind if I answer your question with some questions?
1) What is she wearing atm?
2) What is the OEM fittment? (ie what did she have when she came out of the factory)
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there is some slithering around muddy campsites
3) Do you mean this litterally? If you are struggling for grip, you want a more agressive tyre than you are using at the moment. If you arn't, then you probably don't. Tyre agressiveness goes Road > All Terrain (AT) > Mud Terrain (MT)
Your starting point is whatever it wore out of the factory. They were fitted for a reason.
If you can't afford them then you are generally better off going for a new/remould budget tyre than part worn premium tyres. As several people have mentioned, Kumho do some very good tyres & Avon have a good line of remoulds.
Hope that helps.
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Topic: 4x4 tyres - what make do you use?
