Well I must admit that has shocked me... in 30 years towing trailers for work and caravans for fun, I have only ever been pulled by dvsa a handful of times, never with a caravan. Always with a trailer, never weighed. Would love to see a straw poll how many caravanners have had the “follow me” treatment
Quote: Originally posted by hughierob on 24/8/2020
Hi All
I already have the caravan but it is towed by a Citroen C4, we were considering down sizing
the car. The Citroen C3 Picasso was 1 of the cars I had on my list along with a diesel Dacia Stepway.
I have emailed the Citroen dealer and I am waiting for a reply.
The Dacia Stepway is even lighter when you look a the load plate, so that is off the list.
I understand about partially loading but if stopped by the law I don't want the hassle of finding a weigh bridge and trying to prove a point.
Thanks again both of you for your thoughts and comments
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Quote: Originally posted by hughierob on 21/8/2020
Hi
Thanks for letting me join. I have a question on towing. I am trying to establish the correct towing capacity for a 2014 1.6 diesel exclusive 90 hp. The plate states as follows 1800 below
2700 then 1-1000 and below again 2-900. Having spoken to my local Citroen dealer he states the first figure is the car empty the second figure is the car fully loaded. The caravan ( mine 1000 kg) can then be added on. This does not sound right to me any help advice would be appreciated.
Thanks.
As others have said, the dealer is incorrect. I have a blog on Weights & VIN plates at https://spinner28.wixsite.com/tonys-towing-trivia/post/weights-vin-plates
You may find it useful! 😊
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Quote: Originally posted by Triaxle on 24/8/2020
Please please please try and understand this... you will not be stopped and weighed (in the UK at least). Dvsa deal with commercial vehicles, not private. I defy marg6 to supply ANY evidence of this happening in the real world. Police have very limited interest in these things. Of course if one were to absolutely take the pee, with the outfit dragging along the road visibly dangerous, one might attract a bit of attention But other than that if it tows ok and looks ok then crack on
I’m afraid I have to disagree with you! I was previously the owner of Towbars &Trailers Chesterfield and, at the same time, I was a Director of the National Trailer & Towing Association. In my capacity there, I delivered training to the industry on “Towbar fitting & electrics”, “Trailer Maintenance” and “Towing & the Law”.
I was invited to witness an event by Nottinghamshire Police held at the now redundant VOSA Site at Bingham on the A52.
They had police motorcycles pulling anything and everything being towed (except HGV’S)... The aim was, essentially, to educate and inform but there were a number during the day that had warnings and tickets issued, plus a small number that were barred from proceeding.
Candidates included camping trailers, horse boxes (with livestock), caravans, car transporters, general goods trailers etc. The one thing I didn’t see pulled unfortunately, was Motorhomes towing A-Framed cars.
Part of the procedure during the day was to routinely weigh everything including noseweights (the biggest issues with caravans).
You CANNOT assume that because you’re not a commercial set-up that you will not be stopped.
Quote: Originally posted by Triaxle on 24/8/2020
Please please please try and understand this... you will not be stopped and weighed (in the UK at least). Dvsa deal with commercial vehicles, not private. I defy marg6 to supply ANY evidence of this happening in the real world. Police have very limited interest in these things. Of course if one were to absolutely take the pee, with the outfit dragging along the road visibly dangerous, one might attract a bit of attention But other than that if it tows ok and looks ok then crack on
I’m afraid I have to disagree with you! I was previously the owner of Towbars &Trailers Chesterfield and, at the same time, I was a Director of the National Trailer & Towing Association. In my capacity there, I delivered training to the industry on “Towbar fitting & electrics”, “Trailer Maintenance” and “Towing & the Law”.
I was invited to witness an event by Nottinghamshire Police held at the now redundant VOSA Site at Bingham on the A52.
They had police motorcycles pulling anything and everything being towed (except HGV’S)... The aim was, essentially, to educate and inform but there were a number during the day that had warnings and tickets issued, plus a small number that were barred from proceeding.
Candidates included camping trailers, horse boxes (with livestock), caravans, car transporters, general goods trailers etc. The one thing I didn’t see pulled unfortunately, was Motorhomes towing A-Framed cars.
Part of the procedure during the day was to routinely weigh everything including noseweights (the biggest issues with caravans).
You CANNOT assume that because you’re not a commercial set-up that you will not be stopped.
#TowSafe #TowLegal
https://spinner28.wixsite.com/tonys-towing-trivia
Totally and completely agree with you!!
I've got aquaintances that are DVSA Inspectors who say the same thing and I have seen Inspectors and Police stopping people in North Wales, at the end of the M50 at Ross on Wye, and at Exeter Services.
It happens!!
Quote: Originally posted by Triaxle on 24/8/2020
Please please please try and understand this... you will not be stopped and weighed (in the UK at least). Dvsa deal with commercial vehicles, not private. I defy marg6 to supply ANY evidence of this happening in the real world. Police have very limited interest in these things. Of course if one were to absolutely take the pee, with the outfit dragging along the road visibly dangerous, one might attract a bit of attention But other than that if it tows ok and looks ok then crack on
I’m afraid I have to disagree with you! I was previously the owner of Towbars &Trailers Chesterfield and, at the same time, I was a Director of the National Trailer & Towing Association. In my capacity there, I delivered training to the industry on “Towbar fitting & electrics”, “Trailer Maintenance” and “Towing & the Law”.
I was invited to witness an event by Nottinghamshire Police held at the now redundant VOSA Site at Bingham on the A52.
They had police motorcycles pulling anything and everything being towed (except HGV’S)... The aim was, essentially, to educate and inform but there were a number during the day that had warnings and tickets issued, plus a small number that were barred from proceeding.
Candidates included camping trailers, horse boxes (with livestock), caravans, car transporters, general goods trailers etc. The one thing I didn’t see pulled unfortunately, was Motorhomes towing A-Framed cars.
Part of the procedure during the day was to routinely weigh everything including noseweights (the biggest issues with caravans).
You CANNOT assume that because you’re not a commercial set-up that you will not be stopped.
#TowSafe #TowLegal
https://spinner28.wixsite.com/tonys-towing-trivia
Seem to recall a program on TV (Think it may have been Caravan Finder TV) probably a few years back now, where they covered a similar exercise of checking non-HGV units, they certainly checked the whole range from weight of trailer/vehicle train, suitability of tow vehicle, and whether the driver's paperwork entitled them to tow the set up.
Certainly some people who never got to continue their journey, whilst others got 'advice' or more stern reprimands!
It may not be common practice, but you can't say never.
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