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Subject Topic: Do I have the right tow ball for Bpw?
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28/9/2011 at 8:51am
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Hi,

My new (to us) Elddis caravan has BPW chassis and a Winterhoff stabiliser fitted. My car however has a standard tow hitch fitted which is bare metal and not greased etc. We used to have a FC for which this was fine with a bit of grease.

My question is, do I need a different tow ball for the above set up? I understand that this is the case for Alko stabilisers but not sure about ours?

thanks for any advice/reassurance.


28/9/2011 at 9:10am
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We had a standard hitch for our folding camper but when we bought our caravan from a dealer they changed the tow ball as it was not right for the Winterhoff.

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28/9/2011 at 9:29am
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Thanks.

However, I just had a look on the Winerhoff site (should have done this first) and it says I can use the standard hitch?

http://www.winterhoff.de/english/inhalt.html

I am going to the nec so might get them to confirm if they are there. Better safe than sorry!






28/9/2011 at 9:59am
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the towball size is a standard 50 mm,if you use an ALKO type hitch you need the long neck towball. the winterhoff does not require this towball.NO grease anywhere when using both types.

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28/9/2011 at 4:43pm
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As Michael says. It's only the AlKo stabiliser that needs a special hitch, the Winterhoff is fine on any hitch. You do need to clean any grease off the towball before hitching up though as the grease will contaminate the pads.


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28/9/2011 at 5:02pm
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Thanks everyone.

You have confirmed what I had assumed but always good to check! I have been very vigilant around keeping the tow ball free of grease and debris so far (though only used it a couple of times).

Seems to me that the Alko set up is a bit restrictive. What if you need to tow your van with a different vehicle such as a recovery truck?

Anyway pleased to learn that for once I seem to have the right stuff!


28/9/2011 at 6:58pm
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I agree about the AlKo setup, it is a pain, one of the reasons I lefdt the AlKo towball on my car despite not having an AlKo hitch on the caravan anymore. At least if someone with an AlKo hitch needed a hand I can still hitch up and tow it for them.


29/9/2011 at 9:20am
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Have a read of this thread - might be helpful

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=10&TopicID=260307&PagePosition=1&ThreadPage=1&ReturnPage=Search&search=&searchIn=

 



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29/9/2011 at 11:26am
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Quote: Originally posted by audicab26 on 28/9/2011
 
Seems to me that the Alko set up is a bit restrictive. What if you need to tow your van with a different vehicle such as a recovery truck?

 

That would be no problem as any tow truck would have a suitable ball but it would just need cleaning prior to use.

 



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29/9/2011 at 11:50am
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Quote: Originally posted by audicab26 on 28/9/2011
...Seems to me that the Alko set up is a bit restrictive. What if you need to tow your van with a different vehicle such as a recovery truck?

The Alko ball isn't restrictive - the only difference it it has a slightly longer neck to allow better clearance for the Alko hitch.

Both the Alko hitch and Winterhoff must be used on a grease free towball (for reasons already mentioned) and you would in fact have the issue of recovery, should your Winterhoff equipped van need retrieval too.

You can in fact tow any trailer/caravan etc with an Alko towball, which you can't do with a standard towball, as you'd be able to tow Alko hitch equipped caravans too.

Quote: Originally posted by DaveCoaches on 28/9/2011
I agree about the AlKo setup, it is a pain, one of the reasons I lefdt the AlKo towball on my car...

Exactly how is it a pain? It's a towball with a slightly longer stand-off neck.


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29/9/2011 at 3:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by homebird2003 on 29/9/2011

Have a read of this thread - might be helpful

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=10&TopicID=260307&PagePosition=1&ThreadPage=1&ReturnPage=Search&search=&searchIn=

 


Thanks - had a read through. I'll stick with my standard tow ball and make sure it is clean and grease free etc (as I have been doing).

All the best,

Derek




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