What you don't mention is whether the seller of your plate was licensed by the DVLA when you bought. If so then the seller was legit and the name on your plate is that of an authorised seller. What matters is the status when you buy not what happens to the business some time down the road.
Phil
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Well if he is removing the BS and dealer info no wonder someone had a word with him.
Phil
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The dealer was registered at the time and all legit. But, if I go and check the legitimacy of the plate now, the company is no longer there. As I no longer have a receipt to prove when it was bought, nor do I have any kind of proof that the company were registered at the time of purchase, I suppose I should replace the plate. I should probably check whether the suppliers of the plates on my car are still registered too.
DVLA will have the records that the seller was authorised. Sellers come and go and many a number plate will have details of defunct authorised sellers. It does not make the plate unlawful
Phil
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I use Willmonds in Hitchin for my plates you need the docs but half the price of Halfrauds.think it was £8 last time will find out tomorrow as i need a new one
Quote: Originally posted by DaveCoaches on 05/3/2012
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The name and post code of the seller that is required to be displayed on a number plate (on a car on the public highway) has to be that of an authorised seller. If the car was first registered prior to Sept 2001 and it has its original plates then it does not have to display that name. You are "authorised" if you register with the DVLA. According to its web site Mr AJ Harkness of Edinburgh (referred to in the earlier posting that included a link to Ebay and this seller) is not authorised. So, it may be best to check the name on the plates acquired and then check the Site. If the name is not on the DVLA list of authorised sellers maybe the cheap plate could end up not being that cheap.
Phil
That's a very interesting link. I see the company that supplied the plate on my caravan recently changed ownership and names and the old name is no longer showing on the list, but the new name is. Does that mean that my numberplate has just become illegal?
No because that would be an unreasonable expectation.
Recently bought plates from Demon Plates of internet but had to send photos via email of driving licence and v5 document before they would dispatch.But they are half the price of Halfords etc and you got a plate builder so you can get them made the way you want border colour badge slogan etc but only legal spacing allowed all legit
So when the Regs say that only authorised persons licensed by the DVLA can legitimately produce number plates that can be overlooked?
When the regs say "Typeface must be sans serif. All other fonts are prohibited" and demonplates enables you to use "Akbar, Eurostyle, Impact, Stencil BT, Balloon, Gill Sans, Porkys, Superglue, City Medium, Handel Gothic and Slicker." the regs can be ignored
Earlier I posted just what the regs say about exactly what can be on a plate and which did not include a reference to slogans and badges but sums up the rules by saying " There shall be no other markings or material contained on the number plate." that can be ignored as well?
Interesting. Half the price of Halford but when you add on the fine, if caught, they will be more than double the price of Halfords. Always fascinates me how we have laws in this land which have to be observed and others that can be taken with a pinch of salt if they don't suit
Phil
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The law specifically states that Euro badges are ok and it also states that the maufacturers name and post code have to be on the plate. That is its name and post code which are not, in law, slogans. All other stuff is prohibited. Still we can say this over and over and you only find out its right if you get cautioned by Mr Plod. If you need an MOT certificate for your car is it Ok to get one from the bloke in the pub or via an authorised MOT station?
Phil
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Quote: Originally posted by cwdc56768 on 11/3/2012
The law specifically states that Euro badges are ok and it also states that the maufacturers name and post code have to be on the plate. That is its name and post code which are not, in law, slogans. All other stuff is prohibited. Still we can say this over and over and you only find out its right if you get cautioned by Mr Plod. If you need an MOT certificate for your car is it Ok to get one from the bloke in the pub or via an authorised MOT station?
Phil
Hi Phil,
I read your posts with great interest and admire and respect your obvious knowledge in the matters on which you comment.
In this case however I have to say that I feel that you over state the implications of using "non authorised" suppliers of registration plates. I have just bought a set on ebay. They are the legal font, have the manufacturer's name and post code on them together with the BS number.
I have the perhaps naive view that Plod has got better things to do with his time than pull me in, and google the list of approved suppliers in Dartford to see if this chap is (or was) on the list.
It also begs the question as to when we buy a car, we should all carry out checks to see that the number plates already on the vehicle were supplied by an approved agent?
I fully agree that illegal fonts and spacings that could make the plate difficult to read are a bad thing and feel that they fall in the same category as breaking the speed limit, using a phone whilst driving and of course drink (in any quantity) driving.
I just somehow feel that not using a recognised supplier for your number plate does not quite fall in the same category as the above.
Quote: Originally posted by cwdc56768 on 06/3/2012
Well if he is removing the BS and dealer info no wonder someone had a word with him.
Phil
I think you misread what i meant. He sold legal plates with all the correct markings.
But when people requested plates with different spacings they became show plates. The software automatically removed the legal info because the plate would no longer be road legal.
The software only printed the legal info if the plate was legal. Pictures, Fonts, Spacing would remove that if it was non standard.
Take your point completely Mr U-M. Doubt if Plod ever looks at plates unless they stick out like a sore thumb like the one near me with a leeds United badge on it. Stunningly obvious its illegal.
My point however, is not to "over state the implications of using "non authorised...." . No, the point here is that there is a law that specifies what is required so why is it so difficult to comply?
The plates are required to be in a particular style so that they can be picked up on speed cameras. That camera will also show the maker on the plate and any unlawful badges etc. So, if you are caught speeding you may find some other fines heading your way as well. Why put yourself at risk of extra fines? Anyway, you all know what is right and what is wrong. Up to you all what you do with the information
Phil
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