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19/5/2016 at 8:51pm
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Quote: Originally posted by diesel steve on 18/5/2016
9 speed gearbox and a small 1.6 cc engine sounds like a very flat,lack of drivability engine. probably rubbish at towing,it will be changing gears all the time.



If the gear box is switched to sport mode it is then effectively a manual and gears are changed using the "flappy paddles" on the steering wheel. however if the paddles are used in auto mode to drop a gear or 2 it will revert to full auto mode when it decides that another gear is needed, ie if you lift off it will more than likely change up. I will try all this on my extended test drive next week.(unfortunatley not towing)


19/5/2016 at 10:13pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Packidge on 19/5/2016
According to Honda the new 9-speed box gives a 15% fuel consumption improvement compared with the previous auto box and a 0.5 sec improvement on 0-60mph acceleration. 1st is much lower, 5th is the direct drive gear which means there are 4 overdrive gears.

A torque convertor, how agreeable it may be, is quite fuel-inefficient which is why sequential gearboxes are more economical.

I remember my Dad's Honda Accord auto some years ago had only had 2 forward gears, the torque convertor did the rest! Fuel economy was pretty poor though.



Interesting! 15% improvement in fuel consumption is good for the planet, but is it good for the owner if it leads to bigger repair bills? Only time will tell, I suppose.

Yes torque converters were more fuel-inefficient before converter-lock-up was introduced, but even my 16 year old Volvo has that. I still like the torque-multiplying effect though, with a variable ratio of 2-1, effectively giving a lower first gear and a doubling of the number of available gears.

I can also remember a car that had only two forward gears back in the 1960s. The Vauxhall Cresta, with a 3 litre engine and the "powerglide" gearbox. I worked on several of them. Must admit though that if you got 18mpg you were doing well!

Incidentally, some diesel multiple-unit trains have only two gears. I am a retired train driver.   



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Colin



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