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Message posted by daveyjp02/1/2018 at 11:54am
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Quote: Originally posted by Opensauce on 01/1/2018
Nobody seems to worry about a towcar having too much power. For example or in fact plenty of examples on the M5 earlier this yr. large SUVs towing caravans pulling out to pass trucks in the inside lane. Trucks are going around 55mph so caravanner should be passing them at no more that 5mph faster & yet the caravanners were putting their boots down & in some cases undertaking cars that were trying to pass them at over 70 in the outside lane. Probably they were towing at 80 without even realising it.

If they had been content to drive in convoy with the trucks at 55mph or even just drive at the speed limit then a much less powerful towcar would have been adequate for their needs.

So really it is down to the driving style you prefer. If you describe a car as “gutless” all it means is that you would prefer to be driving a more powerful car. It does not suggest there is any more wrong with the car you are driving other than simply that you do not like it because it is not fast enough for you.

If the car is a good match for the caravan by weight then provided the power & torque is adequate to tow the caravan at legal speeds if you find it underpowered then it just means you would prefer a more powerful car not that the car itself is unsuitable for towing the caravan.



Gutless does not mean it wasn't fast enough, the ECU wasn't programmed to allow turbo boost at lower revs.

Slower turns into side streets where second has always been a gear to use just weren't possible, the car just died to to lack of turbo boost, so first was required to get some boost. It was very frustrating.

At the time I had a Mercedes with 90bhp, so I was hardly used to having hundreds of horsepower under the bonnet, yet it had adequate low down torque for second gear to be used with no problems.

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I dont think the auto can tow 1500kg? Isnt the limit for that less?

Ideally your looking at a caravan of upto 1200kg for a 1440kg kerbweight.



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Max tow weight = Cars gross laden weight + Caravans gross laden weight.

These 2 figures must not exceed 3500kg. And the Caravans gross laden weight must not exceed the cars UNLADEN weight.

Unless the manufacturer has set a lower limit.

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Probably been turned down to stop hirers wrecking it Dave or was faulty. If a new car you had bought yourself drove as you describe it you would be taking it back for warranty work. The op confirms theirs drives ok.

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I tow 1500kg bailey with my 1.6diesel xtrail. Big car, big caravan, tiny engine BUT tows brilliantly. Yes you drop a gear for a steep hill but you'd do that anyway. Small engines are fine just stay within the law with regard to weight and axle weight more so.
I wouldn't hesitate with your set up. As long as the plate weight is adheard too.

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Nobody seem to have mentioned that at 85% min kerb weight of vehicle 1263Kgs the loaded mass of caravan is 1073Kgs. indeed car can tow 1500 kgs but this is larger than the weight of car.
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I think they have if you read the thread carefully. The 85% ‘thing’ is often argued over but all it does suggest is that it is better for caravan to be somewhat lighter than the towcar & gives a new caravanner a figure to guide them.

A more experienced tower can make a judgement based more on whether the car/caravan combination looks right as well as looking at the figures which is what I was suggesting in an earlier post. Caravanning is recreational so towing should not be unduly stressful.

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We aware of the 85% advice, however OH has towed caravans for 20+ years and driven most types of vehicle in the UK and military/construction types abroad.
My concern is that I have never seen our car on a caravan site or towing!
And it seems a small car to me
However every site I look at confirms the figures and I am definitely looking at the DCT/auto model.
Thank you everyone, guess I'm just a worrier!


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Francais, I have a VW GT TDI and I have towed a folding camper (750 Kg) to Turkey and back. Never knew it was there in terms of power and with 6 forward gears the economy was superb.
The only problem I found was that with sports suspension and low profile tyres any bumps or poor road surfaces or driving onto ferries was a disaster. One solution was to take the jockey wheel off completely.
Now tow with a Peugeot Partner, really good ground clearance, economy not as good as the VW ( well it is a square shaped brick) and not surprisingly it does not pull as well as the VW.
So for a practical towing car the Peugeot but for fun etc the Golf!
So have regard to the height.
It was my ignorance in only looking at the towing capacity of the car and I wasted a lot of money on getting a tow bar fitted to a totally unsuitable car. I wish I had known about this website at the time!
Somebody would have pointed out what now seems so obvious!

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Message posted by Skoda Bob05/1/2018 at 10:02am
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Quote: Originally posted by Bramidan on 04/1/2018
Francais, I have a VW GT TDI and I have towed a folding camper (750 Kg) to Turkey and back. Never knew it was there in terms of power and with 6 forward gears the economy was superb.
The only problem I found was that with sports suspension and low profile tyres any bumps or poor road surfaces or driving onto ferries was a disaster. One solution was to take the jockey wheel off completely.
Now tow with a Peugeot Partner, really good ground clearance, economy not as good as the VW ( well it is a square shaped brick) and not surprisingly it does not pull as well as the VW.
So for a practical towing car the Peugeot but for fun etc the Golf!
So have regard to the height.
It was my ignorance in only looking at the towing capacity of the car and I wasted a lot of money on getting a tow bar fitted to a totally unsuitable car. I wish I had known about this website at the time!
Somebody would have pointed out what now seems so obvious!

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You could have fitted a set of 16 inch wheels and tyres,to the VW, all the sizes you could have fitted are listed inside the fuel flap

Message posted by Bramidan05/1/2018 at 3:02pm
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Cheers Skoda Bob, we still have the Golf as well as the Peugeot so that is still an option.
I have to say the Peugeot is far more practical for camping etc and our dog prefers it!

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Yep Bramidan, wish I could have a more practical car for camping, but I drive a company car, and the firm does not gives us a choice, for the last 12 years it has been a VW Golf Hatch, which gets changed every two years.

Got the current car, last June, and the towbar gets fitted tomorrow, left it a bit late this time, as I normally get the towbar fitted straight away.


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