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Subject Topic: New vanner - doing my calculations!
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04/6/2019 at 12:24pm
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If I had passed my test first time, I would have had full pre-Apr 1997 grandfather rights to drive everything but sadly I find myself with the annoying post 97 restrictions.

For many years I've been towing 750kg unbraked trailers full of scout kit and on the occasion I needed to tow a horse trailer I had to put on l plates and have a "grown up" with me!

Now that I'm a new caravan owning fella I've been doing the calculations to make sure I'm legal.


2004 VW Passat weighing 1641kg with a maximum towing weight of 1600kg

1991 Swift Major with max weight of 1060kg


So as I see it, combined gross weight of 2700kg and the van is lesss than 85% of vehicle so safe too

Ironically this time last year when I started dreaming of caravan based fun I was driving a landrover discovery, one of the most competnent towing vehciles but would have probably have been too heavy for me to keep within the 3.5 gross weight combined limit

Really looking forawrd to holidays with the family now!!



04/6/2019 at 1:47pm
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You need to know the maximum gross vehicle weight, not the actual weight of your Passat. It is the first weight on the VIN plate on your car, normally found on the B pillar.

However, based on my own car, I would guess it's around the 2000 kg mark, so you would still be well within the limit.


05/6/2019 at 8:14am
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Its astonishing how varied the terms are when trying to find info about weights, no-one seems to use any standardised terms!!


05/6/2019 at 8:31am
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No standard at all for terms of any weight, handbook for my Skoda states 'unloaded weight ready for work' 1,495kg no mention of kerbweight, but that weight is on the V5C for mass in service. At least the car plated weights are easy to understand.

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05/6/2019 at 9:25am
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Various terms used by different companies is a pain.

But people selling the caravans who do not know the weight or give you the unladen weight does not help either.

And you cant just look up the weight because there is a chance the original buyer had it up plated or down plated.




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10/6/2019 at 7:26pm
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The maximum permissible weight of your Passat will be its unladen weight plus payload (which for most saloon and estate cars is around 600kg). Even if we round this up and call it 2300kg, the maximum weight of 1050kg for your caravan means that you are well within the limit.

You can take an extended test to qualify you for the 'B+E' licence extension, which increases your combined gross weight limit to (I think) 7000kg.

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