No doubt non E10 users will be charged a premium for the fuel that they have to use, although I see it as a positive that engines have been designed to run on E10 for at least the last ten years, so the transition will hardly cause any issues, all good in my book.
Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 16/6/2021
No doubt non E10 users will be charged a premium for the fuel that they have to use, although I see it as a positive that engines have been designed to run on E10 for at least the last ten years, so the transition will hardly cause any issues, all good in my book.
still a lot of cars on the road that are 10 plate and older, V power fuel is about 20p per ltr more than normal fuel.
My Micra is a 2009 model but only has about 47,000 miles on the clock. I would imagine there are thousands of older low mileage cars still in very good condition on the roads and will no doubt end up subsidising the rest in fuel tax!
I'm still sticking to my diesel X Trail!
What gets me is that if every car owner switched to driving an electric-only car tomorrow, the result on emissions would be marginal. There are many other sources of emissions that are far worse than cars, including many forms of home heating and some power stations. A lot of industrial processes are quite "dirty" too.
Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 16/6/2021
I'm still sticking to my diesel X Trail!
What gets me is that if every car owner switched to driving an electric-only car tomorrow, the result on emissions would be marginal. There are many other sources of emissions that are far worse than cars, including many forms of home heating and some power stations. A lot of industrial processes are quite "dirty" too.
Colin i saw on the news last week that the new ferry's for the Scilly islands are all to be electric hybrid.
Yep in my area Manchester they are bringing in a “Clean Air Tax” they are not charging cars, just vans, lorries coaches etc, the area includes most of Greater Manchester, not sure I would be happy about that if I had a little van to commute to work and back each day, not all vans are used for commercial use, plenty of private motorists choose them over having a regular car, £10 per day is quite a hit to take.
Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 16/6/2021
Yep in my area Manchester they are bringing in a “Clean Air Tax” they are not charging cars, just vans, lorries coaches etc, the area includes most of Greater Manchester, not sure I would be happy about that if I had a little van to commute to work and back each day, not all vans are used for commercial use, plenty of private motorists choose them over having a regular car, £10 per day is quite a hit to take.
A guy that does work for me is mithering to buy some euro6 vans from me as i think they are exempt
We went through a somewhat similar situation when the change to unleaded took place. If I remember correctly, some cars could be modified to run on unleaded. but it was not possible on some old classics.
Quote: Originally posted by bessie500 on 16/6/2021
Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 16/6/2021
I'm still sticking to my diesel X Trail!
What gets me is that if every car owner switched to driving an electric-only car tomorrow, the result on emissions would be marginal. There are many other sources of emissions that are far worse than cars, including many forms of home heating and some power stations. A lot of industrial processes are quite "dirty" too.
Colin i saw on the news last week that the new ferry's for the Scilly islands are all to be electric hybrid.
Bessie
Quite an interesting development, and very forward thinking. I can't quite see it catching on with super-tankers and massive container ships though.
Quote: Originally posted by Ancient Uncle on 16/6/2021
We went through a somewhat similar situation when the change to unleaded took place. If I remember correctly, some cars could be modified to run on unleaded. but it was not possible on some old classics.
Correct.
There is a problem that the E10 petrol attacks the rubber in things like pipes and gaskets in the fuel system and also some alloys, often found in the carbs.
When lead free petrol was introduced you could (and still can buy) a lead substitute but no-one has produced anything to take the E out of petrol.
Whilst this is relevant to vehicles, most are unaffected,
This change also needs to be considered in light of other petrol engines, especially two stroke chainsaws, strimmers etc and petrol lawnmowers, Coleman fuel stoves etc.
These may not be designed for it and whilst it will still run the engine, if the fuel is left in the tank and carb for a length of time the ethanol may cause problems.
For little used engines they should be empited and ran until the fuel runs out after every use, or use a purer form of petrol, such a Coleman fuel.
For lawnmowers which are used more often in summer at the end of the season empty the tank and run dry.
Quote: Originally posted by daveyjp on 17/6/2021
Whilst this is relevant to vehicles, most are unaffected,
This change also needs to be considered in light of other petrol engines, especially two stroke chainsaws, strimmers etc and petrol lawnmowers, Coleman fuel stoves etc.
These may not be designed for it and whilst it will still run the engine, if the fuel is left in the tank and carb for a length of time the ethanol may cause problems.
For little used engines they should be empited and ran until the fuel runs out after every use, or use a purer form of petrol, such a Coleman fuel.
For lawnmowers which are used more often in summer at the end of the season empty the tank and run dry.
Christ i forgot about my lawnmower i'm normally on the dregs by the back end of the year
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