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please cu any 1 tell me if this outfit is safe ?if not wot about lunar quaser eb ? lot o ?'s i no but all new 2 me and dont wona sell car again jst fancy end bedroom u no!!

thanks all hecklefeckle

find the kerb weight of your car and the caravan needs to be 85% of this weight to be safe on tow.so you need also to know the weight of the caravan fully loaded as well.called MTPLM OR MAX LOAD.welcome to ukcs

   www.cuddles.abelgratis.net/kerbweights.htm - 9k

thanx michael tried this on whattowcar but came up wi different % each day and weight seem to differ from wots in brochure am i better going to caravan dealer for outfit check or will they say its ok ! jst 2 sell me new van?

cheers hecklefeckle

It will be fine if its the newer type mondeo. I used to tow my bretagne with one, no problem. Worked out about 87%

Steve

I have a Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 5-door with a kerb weight of 1507kgs. Bailey give the MPTLM of the Burgundy as 1400kgs, which is 93% of the car's kerbweight, which I wouldn't contemplate towing. I doubt if the Mondeo's rear suspension would be up to it, either.

Graham 

Yes. I have a TDCI 130 zetec estate. I had it weighed and it came in at about 1610 KG.

Towed the bretagne with no problem. Plenty of pulling power for any hill. Only reason I now use a pajero is that we needed the extra seats and I did get stuck in a muddy field in april and had to get towed out!. But as a tow car goes, they are brill...just watch out for wet grass or mud. But then, I expect you would get that with any FWD car.

As far as the bretagne goes, brilliant. Only problem we have had (its 6 months old now) is the black rubber keeps coming off the door . I do find it quite light at front mind. I find I have to pack most items in front of the axel to get near 75kg noseweight.

Steve

thanx everyone all taken on board and will look 4 lighter fixed bed if there is 1?

1st use of site and well impressed !! hope i can help others some day!

hecklefeckle

bailey burgundy! looked at one today,very basic but good value for money.august caravan magazine has a write up on it.says.......... MIRO = 910 KGS / MTPLM = 1130 KGS..PRICE  £8599+405 DEL.hope this helps.

www.bailey-caravans.co.uk bailey site gives different weights?????

hi michael r u sure lookin at right thing as it weighs 1400 max

cheers hecklefeckle

apologies in the mag its a mercurydoes have the end bed though,only a two berth as well.

Pageant Burgundy
Retail Price As at 1st June 2005 £ 11,999 Prices include 17.5% VAT Please see below for important price information
Specifications
Berths 4 Bed Sizes Front Saloon 6’6” x 5’2”, Rear Double 6’4” x 4’6” Internal Length 5.608m 18'5" Shipping Length 7.266m 23'10" Overall Width 2.19m 7'2" Overall Height 2.71m 8'10" Internal Headroom 1.90m 6'3" Tyre Sizes 195/70 R14 LI96 Awning Size (gd to gd) 996cm M.T.P.L.M. 1400kg 27.6cwt M.R.O. 1181kg 23.2cwt Payload Allowance for Essential Habitation Equipment 68kg 1.3cwt Payload Allowance for Personal Effects 133kg 2.6cwt Payload Allowance for Optional Equipment 18kg 0.4cwt Total User Payload 219kg 4.3cwt
Retailer Fitted Upgrades
'Cheltenham' fabric in lieu of standard materials Wrap around seats including modified base cushions Chest of drawers with fold out table Spare wheel & tyre Remi-top sunroof Burgundy STD STD STD Optional Equipment Payload Allowance nil 4.0kg 13.6kg 19.0kg 10.0kg PRICE: (inc VAT at 17.5%) £110 £225 £245 £95 £310 KEY: Option available on this model - STD Standard equipment on this model - n/a Not Applicable on this model

thats ok !!!! 2 bed erm unfortunately got 2 sprogs so need 4berth !dont meen that realy there gud kids

thanks 4 specs michael

regrds hecklefeckle

Hi,i had the same problem ,i ended up with a Ace Jubilee Envoy...

.miro1063 kgs....mtplm  1285 kgs.

we have 2 girls 11 and12 ,we find its ok for us all to sleep in for a winter weekend now we are in the summer the pair of them sleep in the annexe and love it.

hope this helps